[jaws-uk] Re: Solution Re: Ctrl with everything
- From: "Terry Moody" <T.Moody@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 15:58:28 +0100
It's a good point. Is there something we can do to insert a warning into
information/training
given to European users? I don't remember how I learned to use right-Alt
instead of alt plus
Ctrl but it seemed like a good idea until this came up.
Terry
From: "Joan Muir" <wjmuir.twadugs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Solution Re: Ctrl with everything
Date sent: Wed, 17 May 2006 14:49:55 +0100
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> Well, I corresponded for quite some time with FS re my problem and was
> instructed to almost delete Jaws in its entirety. They did say they would
> phone me but Christmas intervened and they never did ring. I found it
> easiest to use V6 and have no problems with that.
>
> Surely FS should be aware of the problems which may only relate to UK users?
> If not, maybe they should be made aware of them. I know it's the first time
> I've had anything like a solution. As I've said before now, what would we do
> without this list!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Joan.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "TIDDYogg" <oggy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 2:16 PM
> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Solution Re: Ctrl with everything
>
>
> > ...or use the US keyyboard layout using (left) alt + shift. You can
> > change back with either alt key + shift.
> >
> >
> > Terry Moody wrote:
> >> Thanks, Steve and George,
> >>
> >> Simple when you know how. So the answer is use left-Alt plus Ctrl, not
> >> right-Alt, for
> >> navigating in tables.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Terry
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Ctrl with everything
> >> Date sent: Wed, 17 May 2006 11:54:28 +0100
> >> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Send reply to: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
> >>> Just for the record, it is most important to appreciate and
> >>> understand that the RIGHT Alt key is NOT the same as the
> >>> left Alt key on European and British Keyboard. In fact it
> >>> carries the legend "ALT GR".
> >>>
> >>> Its purpose it to generate a third character from a key.
> >>> For example Right ALT GR plus the number 4 on the top row,
> >>> will generate a Euro Currency sign.
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately our American friends do not always remember
> >>> this feature when they are writing software for
> >>> International markets.
> >>>
> >>> George bell.
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> >>> Griffiths, Steve
> >>> Sent: 17 May 2006 11:20
> >>> To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Ctrl with everything
> >>>
> >>> Terry,
> >>> =3D20
> >>> I get the same as you, and noticed it only happens if I use
> >>> the right Alt key; if I use Left Control and Left Alt
> >>> instead, the problem doesn't occur. I also tried the 7.10
> >>> beta and it happens just the same in that.
> >>>
> >>> Steve=3D09
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>> On Behalf Of Terry Moody
> >>> Sent: 17 May 2006 10:39
> >>> To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Ctrl with everything
> >>>
> >>> Hi again,=3D20
> >>> I have now identified a specific sequence of actions which
> >>> triggers this problem. Perhaps someone with the same kind of
> >>> setup as me would see if they can replicate it? I have JAWS
> >>> 7.0 Professional, Windows XP Pro, and Internet Explorer
> >>> 6.0.=3D20 1. I go to a Web page with a table in it. For
> >>> example the Sight and Sound Technology Homepage at
> >>> http://www.sightandsound.co.uk/Home.htm and use right-Alt
> >>> and the arrow keys to navigate within the table.
> >>> 2. While still in the table I use left-alt plus Tab to cycle
> >>> to another open application. JAWS speaks the name of the
> >>> application but I find that it doesn't have focus, i.e. when
> >>> I try to move through it with up-down arrows I still hear
> >>> the contents of the Web page.=3D20 3. I think it probably
> >>> doesn't matter what I do now, but, for example, If I now
> >>> press Escape, I'm into what I call "Ctrl with everything"
> >>> mode and I can't get out without restarting the computer.=3D20
> >>> Cheers,=3D20 Terry=3D20
> >>>
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