John, When you next upgrade, why don't you buy a Mac? McNigel ----- Original Message ----- From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 1:57 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Slightly off topic > Roll on the day that happens. I only hope that when it does Microsoft give > decent support for any problems with it. Although I appreciate that if > Microsoft did incorporate a screenreader worth the name into Windows > screenreader manufacturers would complain, but that's not my concern. > Wouldn't it be nice just to pay for one product instead of several, and > not > to be expected to fork out hundreds of pounds just to enable us to access > what is accessible to the sighted user. > Linux have done it, and so have Macintosh. Why not Microsoft? > John. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 1:32 PM > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Slightly off topic > > > I believe the market for screen readers is comparatively small so it will > not be at the top of MS's priority list. Also MS has recently tried to > improve it's security in Vista only to have companies currently offering > third party security products complaining of unfair competition. I can't > imagine screen reader companies being too happy if MS attempts to take > away > their business. MS has done this in the past of course when it wanted to > get into the word processor market and deliberately crushed a rival word > processor product by giving them very little information on how windows > would work at the time they introduced windows three point one. This > meant > there rivals product was crap in comparison to MS's. > > You can expect MS to take an interest in controlling the screen reader > market when they have taken over everything else. > > Nigel > You vote Tory, you get a Tory Government. You vote Labour you get a > Labour > Government with Tory policies. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 11:08 AM > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Slightly off topic > > >> Hi Dorothy, that's a question I've been asking myself for a long time. I >> can >> see no reason why they shouldn't. I can only think that they consider >> blind >> people to repbe too small a group to bother. I would hope that one day >> they >> will. I had hoped that Vista, along with all its other bells and whistles >> would incorporate a decent screenreader, but it's only got Narrator. The >> only improvement is that you'll be able to use SAPI 5 voices with it. >> John. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 11:25 PM >> Subject: [jaws-uk] Slightly off topic >> >> >> Did anyone listen to Opinion on Radio 4 this morning at about ten to 9. >> >> A Journalist was talking about the "Richest Man on the Planet" seems Mr. >> Bill gates, is that man. Journalist said how it had changed the City >> greatly. What has Microsoft to do with Jaws? Well can anyone explain how >> easy is it to use Jaws without Microsoft? Would it be easier for >> Microsoft >> to serve our needs without Jaws? 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