Hi Good points, thank you. In part, I'm also thinking long term. = Vocationally and voluntary activities. =20 Gena M 0 E B P VOIP / IM: gena1959uk Tel 01772 380039 Mobile: 07876 502276 -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] = On Behalf Of Tristram Llewellyn Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:27 AM To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Shorthand / Speed audio typing tutorials=20 It has been so many years since I was at college reading for a degree, = being partially sighted I attempted hand written notes in the first term = but they proved difficult to read without a subsequent re-transciption. = Later I scraped enough money to buy a first non mobile PC. Then I did = used to type up lecture notes verbatim from tapes afterwards and even = managed to sell the resulting notes back to a course tutor and makes you = popular with sighted peers as well. However this is both the wrong = technique and also time consuming. The technique you need to get is = note taking rather than changing mode of input to braille or shorthand. = Most of your sighted peers should be doing this as physically they = cannot go as quick as a good typeist at full speed. The problem with = verbatim transcipts is you will end up with reams of stuff, some of = whichi probably will not make sense because it is speech and certainly = may be too much to review when you need to. If your course does have = end of year, term or semester exams you will want concise rather than = ultra detailed notes to review. =20 I believe now some colleges and universities will do note taking classes = for students, at the time I attended these were unheard of but I think = are more common now. The second thing is that as regards typeing you = want accuracy rather than speed because if you are taking notes rather = than typeing verbatim you will not need to go top speed. If you = concentrate on accuracy then you may possibly even turn off your typeing = echo if you get very confident and accurate. Regards. Tristram Llewellyn Sight and Sound Technology Technical Support www.sightandsound.co.uk ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Georgina Joyce=20 To: Jaws-UK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:45 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Shorthand / Speed audio typing tutorials=20 Hi All I've been typing for some years using the techniques gained at =3D Loughborough. I'd like to build upon my speed to the level where I = =3D could type a lecture verbatim. While I can type quite fast, I can't = =3D hear what is being said and type until I've heard a whole phrase. = When =3D the speaker breaks from a incomplete sentence and starts another, it = =3D throws me completely. So I'm looking for a self learning tutorial to = =3D give me practice and a development of a workable technique. Whether = it =3D would be just a speed issue, or learning a shorthand system. I = wondered =3D and tried using the Braille system and have Word automatically expand = =3D the abbreviations but when I try to apply Braille abbreviations, I'm = =3D expecting a Braille keyboard, which throws me. Anyone know of such guidance that can help me as a jaws user? Does = =3D anyone have the experience of the RNIB's audio typing tutorial, if so, = =3D would it help me? Thanks Gena Tel 01772 380039 Mobile: 07876 502276 ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dunsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dfaq] ** or send a message, to=20 ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dunsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dfaq] ** or send a message, to=20 ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq __________ NOD32 2016 (20070129) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq