[jaws-uk] Re: Reading prompts for edit boxes in web page

  • From: "Marie BAISEZ" <marie.baisez@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 12:56:48 +0200

I'm having problems in that respect with tgv.com and sncf.com.
Thanks for taking  the time to look this up for me Brian. Hope you can throw 
some light on the matter for me as it is most frustrating when trying to 
book a train ticket.

Cheers,
Marie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Hartgen" <Brian.Hartgen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:19 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Reading prompts for edit boxes in web page


> It may help.  But it really depends upon the coding of the HTML.  Please
> let me have an example.
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> Brian Hartgen
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Marie BAISEZ
> Sent: 07 May 2007 11:14
> To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Reading prompts for edit boxes in web page
>
> Is there a work around like this when you find a site where only the
> first=20
> item in a combo-box is read? would changing this setting make Jaws read=20
> every item in the list once you've opened it with alt+down arrow?
> thanks for anyone who can provide comments or help on this matter.
> Cheers now,
> Marie
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> From: "Martin Dudley" <dudleym@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 5:49 PM
> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Reading prompts for edit boxes in web page
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>
>> Hi Brian
>>
>> Thanks ever so much, this is now working as required.
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>> Brian Hartgen recently said:-
>>
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>This can be easily rectified within JAWS V8 by working through the
>>>following:
>>>
>>>1. Go to=3D20
>>>www.halifax-online.co.uk
>>>
>>>2. When the site has loaded, press ALT+Shift+V for personalised
>>>verbosity settings.
>>>3. Press the letter F twice and you will reach Form Field prompts.
>>>4. Press Space Bar repeatedly until jaws says "form field prompts use
>>>longest".
>>>5. Press Enter to save the settings.
>>>
>>>Now try reading the security question using forms mode.  You will find
>>>that setting the option this way ensures jaws only acts in this manner
>>>for this site and not globally which is what you want.
>>>
>>>
>>>Brian Hartgen
>>>
>>>Technical Consultant
>>>
>>>T&T Consultancy Ltd
>>>
>>>Office suite 5,
>>>
>>>Imex Technology Park
>>>
>>>Trentham Lakes South
>>>
>>>Stoke-On-trent
>>>
>>>ST48LJ
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>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>>>On Behalf Of Jim Williams
>>>Sent: 06 May 2007 12:31
>>>To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Reading prompts for edit boxes in web page
>>>
>>>Rashni,
>>>
>>>Good thinking I'll put it on my "to do" list.
>>>
>>>Cheers
>>>
>>>Jim Williams
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Rashmi Shah
>>>Sent: 06 May 2007 12:17
>>>To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Reading prompts for edit boxes in web page
>>>
>>>
>>>HiListers
>>>
>>>I have not yet used any bank or building societies website to access
> my
>>>account.
>>>
>>>However, regarding this particular access issue, should it not be
>>>complain
>>>to the FSA (Financial Services Authority) as all of the banks and
>>>building
>>>societies are regulated by the named Authority?
>>>
>>>Rashmi Shah
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Ken Reid" <ken.reid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: "JAWS Users" <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 2:41 PM
>>>Subject: [jaws-uk] Reading prompts for edit boxes in web page
>>>
>>>
>>> > Jim, and others
>>> > I agree very strongly that if a bank et al use a security system
> that
>>>bars
>>> > the visually impaired screen reader user, then we are clearly being
>>> > discriminated against.  It would, I think, be an open and shut
> case.
>>>No
>>> > excuse about protecting our security will wash when the protection
>>> > stretches so far it prevents the user accessing their own account!
>>> >
>>> > The Halifax system that started this thread may be a bit of sloppy
>>>coding,
>>> > given the changing infrastructure that is going on all the time.
> But
>>>as
>>> > Martin and I have both experienced no problems with versions 5 and
> 7,
>>>this
>>> > sounds more like a weakness, or change of setting, in version 8
> than a
>>> > failing of the bank.
>>> >
>>> > I would like to be sure that the Jaws community has pooled its
>>>collective
>>> > expertise to overcome this before we try to get the bank to make
>>>changes,
>>> > as our standpoint is much greyer than that described by Jim.
>>> >
>>> > Look forward to any more suggestions, and wish you luck, Jim, in
>>> > challenging your banker - don't let them get away with it!
>>> >
>>> > Ken
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