I see George we are talking about email clients then? However why would Vista's mail if it is like Outlook express be weaker than the other2 sorry to be so dumb I am just trying to understand OE, is part of windows, used to be called a " freeby because I assume it came as part of Windows so is Windows Mail very similar?
sorry if it is an obvious question to rest of list. DorothyPs off topic I hope those americans make a choice that benefits us all, including Vips and disabled I guess it is a lot to ask ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:03 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Reading elapsed time I made a silly error. Vista uses Microsoft Mail, and upgraded version of Outlook Express, but still not as powerful as Outlook 2003 or 2007. George. -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dorothy Ingram-Gorban Sent: 03 November 2008 13:22 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Reading elapsed time I made a silly error. Hi thanks for the information I wonder if Tiddy is reading this he is in a bit of a a bind right now using Jaws in Demo Mode, but soon he wil be rescued by his kith and kin, I better not try it then,and you are using vista as well how clever of you. Now can you tellme why you are not using Outlook Express or ms Outlook? You se I think Outlook express is also a bit of a B! Good luck dorothy----- Original Message ----- From: "Clive Stevenson" <vi_lists@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 12:56 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Reading elapsed time I made a silly error.
Hello Dorothy, No it is not Web Mail and yes it is rather like Forte Agent and
Outlook
Express in that it deals with both Mail and News traffic. I cannot
say
whether Turnpike is as old or older than either Agent or Outlook Express, or whether it is more powerful, what I can say is that it
is
very powerful and versatile at what it does. Having said that I
would
not recommend it to a beginner as there are aspects of its behaviour that even now after eleven years of use still catch me out from time
to
time. I am currently getting used to using it in Vista and it is proving a real sod but I'll get there. In XP it worked well for me but that was only after extensive tinkering with the configuration settings so I'd stick with the devil you know if I were you! Cheers, Clive.S In message <B68BA4B22DB74951A4698EF942BDEBE1@laptop>, Dorothy Ingram-Gorban <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx> writesWell at least I am not alone I am using Outlook express, I have not heard of Turnpike before is it Webmail? or something unusual like
the
one Tiddy uses Agent, or Forte agent is the latter stronger than
the
first? Forte normally means I think strong but as we are talking Computers Heaven only knows Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clive Stevenson" <vi_lists@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 1:45 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Reading elapsed time I made a silly error.Hi, No, its been happening to me for some time now... I put it down
to the
vagaries of my mail and news client, Turnpike, but apparently I
have
been wrong. Cannot find any reason for this phenomenon but his address is not
the
only one that does this; I have several more from the various lists I
take
and all appear to be posting correctly so I cannot fathom out why this happens. Cheers, Clive.SO In message <79BE6B47A9B84821A631A05A33074F87@dorothy1>, Dorothy Ingram-Gorban <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx> writesHi Did you get about 5 messages in your Inbox from colin? I am
using
Outlook express and for some reason Colins stuff comes into
Outlook
Express inBox, am I the only person to get this? I can see only 1 of
Colins on
the Jaws list. Thanks Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Hallam" <peter.hallam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 4:26 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Reading elapsed time I made a silly error.Colin, Just a thought, did you recompile the scripts after installing
them
into JAWS 9? Regards, Pete H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Howard"
<colin@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <dave-d0619@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 3:24 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Reading elapsed time I made a silly error.Greetings, I am reposting as advised I made an error, I *do* know the
correct
keystroke and have been using it. I have GoldWave v5.25 which, I believe, is still the latest
version,
I have WindowsXP Home with latest updates, I have Jaws v9.0 with, so
far as
I know latest update and I have v.10.0 Public Beta2 ready to try. I also have, so far as I am aware, the latest scripts compiled
and
installed for GoldWAve, these were written for v5.22 but I was advised
work
equally well with v5.25 so no rewrite was felt to be necessary. I am using the program on a new Compak laptop and an older
Evesham
laptop and the behaviour is the same on both machines. Why, then, with all this, when I pause the file using the space
bar,
I then try and read elapsed time by shift with alt and e, do I get an elapsed time of 0.0 yet if I pause the file using the f7 key, I get a
correct
reading? In both cases, a second press of the appropriate key resumes the file as I would expect and issuing the alt shift e reads the
correct
time as the file continues to play. Is this a scripting, or goldwave issue? I am basically just intrigued, as though inconvenient, it does
not
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