I understand what you are saying, but whilst I am not afraid of my OCR , it was a very long time before it could be discovered why Jaws wouldn't work you see, and I am using Lunar to solve that,as John chamberlain who said he could make a switching box,was unable to do it. You will not and how could you understand, but the week I spent at manor house I was ill and soon after leaving hospital,in any case we didn't get as far as Emails,it was athousand pounds wasted, but I am still glad I went,they were so kind, so I am
learning as best as I can alone at home, however I do have a desktop and laptop so I can try on one, that Trojan killed all the Emails on laptop,but not desktop I am using outlook express v 6I cannot use a mouse,I do not usethe magnification but screen needs to be black once Jaws did do that but not now,----- Original Message ----- From: "alex thynne" <alex.thynne@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 10:47 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Reading an attachment
I'm not really sure how far I can be of help here because I'm thinking jaws could be reading all sorts of things. If for example jaws is reading grammar changes, you could try turning this off in the verbosity options as I've said and you can disable this feature in word itself. In the days when I used to work, I personally didn't like reading revisions, track changes and so on. For some people who like this feature, fine, but I personally didn't. You have to decide for yourself how you like jaws to react when reading documents. For those who say jaws is really flexible in its current version when it comes to treating how documents are to be read, that's fine. However, the other side of the coin is to say well I really don't need all this feature ritch usability of a screenreader if all I want is to open up a document and read it. Then again, it could be argued that all that someone may need is word viewer. I haven't tried this so I don't know whether or not jaws will use the microsoft word feature ritch scripts when using this particular program. In my own opinion, there are things I like and things I don't, it depends. However, for someone who maybe only wants to read a document without knowing how it has been revised, updated, call it anything you will, perhaps all the major screenreaders are, for some users, more complex than is necessary for their needs. However, you could try, as I said before, to see if disabling the check for spelling errors and gramatical errors in the verbosity settings will help. Jaws 9 has changed this somewhat to appear like a tree structure, and you need to look for the edit options to see how jaws currently treats these. If they are on, press space bar to turn them off. However, if you are reading superscript characters, as Brian suggested, than that is another matter. Finally, it doesn't do any harm to look at the jaws help topics for particular applications to get a full list of the various jaws commands and options available to you. I'm actually preaching to myself about this one, because it does happen to me, that the last place I look at to try and solve the problem I may be having at the time is the help section of jaws. Alex skype name: grytpype2006 windows live messenger name: alex.thynne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dorothy Ingram-Gorban Sent: 29 June 2008 20:57 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Reading an attachment Hi I experimented by printing the attachment off, then scanning it in using my Ocr, removed all punctuation no luck moved from one Engine to another but although the Recognitions do not read the Empty para and other unwanted material in a high pitched voice of course it reads it. I didn't bother to export it using Rich text Format or scan direct into Word because it will not solve the problem, I suppose I can try what you suggest but I am not sure I can do it. My Ocr I used before I ever signed up to an Isp and am more at home adjusting settings. However I wonder if the Sender is at fault also,because the first claimed to have an attachment and did not,just yards of disclaimers and their Website Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "alex thynne" <alex.thynne@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Reading an attachmentDorothy you are not telling us what program you are using to read the document. If it is word, then there are things you can do in the verbosity settings on a temporary basis to stop jaws from reading these, or configuration manager. You can even tell Word, if it is word, to ignore grammar changes but I would rather not tell you how to do this in the event that the version you are using is not mine. I'm using microsoft word in Office 2000. Alex skype name: grytpype2006 windows live messenger name: alex.thynne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dorothy Ingram-Gorban Sent: 29 June 2008 11:13 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Reading an attachment Hi It is odd at first they sent in what they said was an attachment but I ploughed through it all and it was pages of Legal stuff you know what I mean, I replied where is the attachment and I also sent them a clip from Outlaw, George picked it out the other day it is worth reading, because the business of all this Legalstuff takes yards of reading and most of it is meaningless. So they sent me the attachment and that is when I got all this "empty para and other comments Jaws seems to be commenting on the layout and treating it as a word document, but since it is one I have not typed myself,should Jaws be doing this? It started at the time Jaws began saying "superscript also in high pitch voice. e ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lingard" <b.lingard@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 5:35 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Reading an attachmentOttawa Canada Dear Dorothy and list: I don't know what program is grumbling about the grammatical errors in your received e-mail, but it isn't JAWS that is checking for grammatical errors, although it would be JAWS that is speaking the results of some other program's grammar check. Brian Brian K. 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