Hi Colin, I read your response with interest. I'm pleased someone else is having a similar experience to me. What I find irritating is that often what is put into PDF is what I want to copy to my to my computer to get a copy. I've tried in the beginning to read a word at a time and selecting the whole thing that way but it takes ages but originally did work. Now Jaws won't speak when I do this and, by selecting all Jaws seems to throw a wobbly. Steve