Hi Ken, Not much consolation for you but just to say that I don't seem to have any such difficulties. Nor, I'm afraid, do I have any suggestions for obvious ways around your problem. Jamie -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Reid Sent: 05 April 2011 10:52 To: Jaws Users Subject: [jaws-uk] PDF Hi all, The dreaded PDF, bane of my life. Are my experiences worse than everyone else? When I open a PDF, things work as normal. I may or may not be able to read the contents, depending on who produced it. But when I alt F4 to close Adobe Reader, Jaws goes silent. I haven't found any way to bring it back eg hot keys, navigating by memory to the desk top and activating the icon etc all fail. I have to power down with the big button as even alt F4 from the desk top does nothing. Anyone else getting such dire consequences from opening PDFs, and if not any suggestions what might serve me better. I'm currently on Windows Vista, Jaws 11 (must get around to putting 12 in) and whatever the last version of Reader was that I was able to load (was prompted to upgrade recently but the whole process seemed to be inaccessible - subject for another thread maybe). Thanks for any help. Ken ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6015 (20110404) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6015 (20110404) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq