[jaws-uk] Re: OExpress message rules
- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:44:48 +0100
Hi Jillian,
> OE allows me to change accounts, but I don't think Outlook
does. If it does, I sure didn't find it.
It's in Outlook under Tools, then Accounts. I have four
accounts, so I can confirm it works.
George.
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From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jillian
Grant
Sent: 25 April 2005 10:57
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: OExpress message rules
Thanks Belinda for your help. Guesss I'll be
mailing Yahoo to see if it can work with OE. i much prefer
this to Outlook, which I used to use for this account till
recently. OE allows me to change accounts, but I don't
think Outlook does. If it does, I sure didn't find it.
Thanks again.
----- Original Message -----
From: Belinda <mailto:bcpfizz@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 10:29 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: OExpress message
rules
I think we're talking about 2 different
problems. The first is how to identify the spam mail as
there's nothing in the subject line to identify that it's
spam. I don;t know how to deal with that I'm afraid, as
OExpress doesn't seem to be able to look for words in the
Header of the email. Not sure what to suggest in that case.
I've just looked on the yahoo website and it says that
Outlook has this ability but not Outlook Express. (the link
is:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/plus/spamguardplus/spamgu
ardplus-18.html)
The second problem is what you've got in the
3rd box - the Description box. What you've got in that box
depends on how many items you've selected in the earlier
boxes. I think the description box should have a top line
saying "apply this rule after the message arrives". Then
below that I think it should have one line for every option
you've selected in the other boxes, so you may have selected
more lines than you meant to. Possibly the best thing to do
is to delete the message rule and start again.
Good luck.
Belinda
----- Original Message -----
From: Jillian Grant
<mailto:jillian.grant1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 7:25
PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: OExpress
message rules
Well it hasn't worked. A couple of
things. The words filtered bulk are not contained in the
subject line that is visible when first opening a message,
but are in the stuff in the headers that you view in the
properties. I think I've got something in the description
that needs removing, but it doesn't seem to allow me to
remove things. when I tell it the new description it just
adds it to the end of what's already there. So frustrating.
----- Original Message -----
From: Belinda
<mailto:bcpfizz@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 12:50
PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: OExpress
message rules
I'll see if I can help with this.
I'm using Jaws 5.0 with OE 6.
In Outlook Express you can set up
message rules to move certain messages into folders, or
delete them etc. You need to go into: Tools/Message
Rules/Mail. This takes you into the Message Rules dialog
box. NB you won't be able to switch back & forth between
this email message and the message tools dialog box, so you
may want to copy and paste this message into a word
document, that's what I had to do in order to write the
instructions.
(NB The rules don't apply to "IMAP"
or "HTTP" accounts, I'm not sure quite what this means, but
I do know that the rules don't work with my Hotmail
account).
These are instructions for moving
junk mail to a folder called Junk Mail. NB You MUST first
create the folder called Junk Mail.
1. Tools/message/rules/mail.
The Message Rules dialog box has
three pages: 'Mail Rules, News Rules & Blocked Senders', we
need the first page: Mail Rules.
2. Go to the New button to
create a new message rule. This takes you to the New Mail
Rule dialog box. This dialog box has four areas that you
need to move through with tab and complete.
3. First you need to select
the condition for your rule, this is box 1. It's a box with
lots of options that you move through with up/down arrows.
The first option is "Where the from line contains people",
the second line is the one you probably want: "where the
subject line contains specific words". There are tick boxes
next to each line, pressing space bar puts a tick in the box
on the line you're on, but Jaws isn't reading it out on my
machine. I guess you can read this with the Jaws cursor if
you know how to do that, but it's not really necessary as
you'll get confirmation of what you've selected later. So
move to the second line and press spacebar to select that
option ("where the subject line contains specific words").
4. Now press Tab to move to
the next box, box 2, this is where you select the Actions
for your rule. This is the same sort of list box you were
in before, with options you move through with up/down arrows
and you select the line with spacebar. Press spacebar to
select the first option: "Move it to the specified folder".
5. Press tab again to take
you to box 3, the Rule Description box. This bit is a bit
more complicated, this box contains a description of what
you want to happen, but you have to edit two bits. Press
down arrow once and you should hear "where the subject line
contains specific words". Now press Enter and this takes
you to another dialog box, the "Type specific words" dialog
box. Type in the specific words that you're looking for in
the subject line, eg "FilteredBulk" then press tab to the
"Add" button and press Enter, this adds a line to a box
below called "Words". Now tab to the OK button and press
Enter, and you'll be taken back to the New Mail Rule dialog
box.
6. Still in the same Rule
Description box press down arrow twice and you should hear
"move to the specified folder", press enter to go to a
"Move" dialog box. Now you're in a folder list and you need
to use arrows to find the Junk Mail folder you created.
Once you;ve found it tab to the OK button and press enter.
You'll be taken back to the New Mail Rule dialog box. Now
you can check the full description of your rule by using the
up and down arrow keys.
7. Now press tab to go to
box 4, the "Name of the Rule" box, and type in a name for
the rule, eg "Junk Mail". Then tab to OK and press enter.
8. Now you're back at the
"message rules" dialog box, tab to OK and enter to finish.
And that should be it. Sorry if
this is long winded but as the saying goes: I didn't have
time to make it shorter!
Belinda
----- Original Message -----
From: Jillian Grant
<mailto:jillian.grant1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 9:55 AM
Subject: [jaws-uk] (OT) message
rules
Hi.
I want to start filtering messages
in my other accounts, as I get lots of inappropriate stuff
from some of the Yahoo groups i'm in. I've seen on the
Yahoo website that in theory this shouldn't be too difficult
as the ones I want to filter are already recognised as bulk
from the spam Guard and all should have a header of
XYahooFilteredBulk or something like that. I've noticed it
in the message properties too. But I'm completely confused
as to how to use the message rules to do this. I've set up
a folder for these to be put in, but don't understand how to
explain in a rule that I want it to look for certain
messages with this header and move them. If anyone can
explain in a way I can understand how to set this kind of
filtering up, I'd really appreciate it. I'm using Win 98SE,
JFW 4.5 and OE5.
Thanks very much for any help.
Jill.
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