[jaws-uk] Re: Message to Tink, Barry and Dorathy

  • From: "Barry" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 18:00:07 +0100

You could also do it the other way around:  Use your limited sight without 
Jaws but turn it on when you need it.

Barry H

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Colin Baxter" <C.R.Baxter@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 5:04 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Message to Tink, Barry and Dorathy


It is clear that Dorothy is struggling to do things visually.  Thanks to the
many missing spaces, some sentences sound like a foreign language in
synthesised speech, but they probably look quite reasonable in large
characters on a big screen.

My advice to Dorothy would be to learn to work with speech and to rely on
her sight solely for things like tricky editing or reading foreign names or
mixed strings of letters and numbers.  I'd absolutely hate not to have a
braille display, though these are just about the only jobs I would use it
for.

Stick at it Dorothy.

Colin

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Nigel
Sent: 30 August 2005 14:49
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Message to Tink, Barry and Dorathy


Tink,
an excellent post but might I suggest just one improvement.  Since Dorothy
is having so much trouble writing emails it might be best for some one like
your self or others with similar experience of this problem to do tech
support by phone.

Nigel
It's not what Operating system you use, it's how productive you are with it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tink Watson" <tink@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:51 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Daren


> Dorothy,
>
> Clearly this is getting us nowhere. This thread has turned into a
> confusion which is trying both your patience and ours. So let's start
> again.
>
> The problem is that Jaws has difficulty interacting with Outlook and
> Outlook Express, when the colour scheme is set to white on black. Other
> people, including myself, have verified this.
>
> What are the exact symptoms that you are getting? Is text repeated?
> Is navigating around the body of an email difficult, or perhaps general
> navigation within the application? Are menus behaving as expected, or are
> they problematic too?
>
> The next question is what has been done so far? Dorothy, you
> forwarded an email suggesting that the custom highlights be changed. Have
> you tried to do this? Did it improve things in any way?
>
> What other measures have you tried? It is almost impossible to
> suggest solutions to a problem, without knowing the full story.
>
> What graphics card are you using in your computer? I don't think
> this is part of the problem, as several people have experienced similar
> problems, all with different hardware, but until we know we can't be sure.
>
> What is your Jaws verbosity set to? What windows display settings
> are you using, for example resolution, colour depth etc? What fonts does
> Outlook Express use? Do you read and compose emails in HTML or Plain Text
> mode?
>
> Have you tried a slightly different combination to white on black?
> Does white on dark grey affect the way Jaws behaves? If so how?
>
> It may be that we can't solve this problem and that Jaws simply
> cannot cope with this particular setup, in which case you may have to
> consider a compromise.
>
> In the meantime, let's leave off the quotations, cursing
> professionally trained people, wasting time in airing grievances against
> people both on and off this list and see if we can unravel the problem in
> sensible fashion.
>
> Tink.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> Behalf Of Dorothy Ingram-Gorban
> Sent: 29 August 2005 17:35
> To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jaws-uk] Daren
>
> Do not think I am being   antagonistic . I come to bring information and
> truth and if we are in the mood for quotes I have at time sat and wept
> and
> cried unto the Lord My God MyGod why hst thou hast forsakenme and almost
> gone to the nearest lake taking self and computer. If I picked self up and
> fought back then it was the only way out.  If I got the Directors in
> America
> to take it was by recording the whole sorry tale not a no audio tape and
> sending it by reg. post. I alsm had though  a  little trump card up my
> sleeve which I will keep tomyself and  a bit  of arm twisting is what it
> took to get  the response. I am getting it out today and Darren if you
> want
> to kick me of the list  then say so loud and clear and show your
> credentials
> please Ok  The thing is  sometimes you haveno alternative but to fight
> back
> or go under and somehow you find the strength not usre how.. Comes the
> moment comes the man or the woman Ok  Dorothy
>
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