Hi Phil, and George in an earlier post, I am not used to laptop key layouts, and I have learned that they vary considerably. You have helped me to sort this little problem out and when I speak to my client in the next day or so, I will have a course of action to get her up and running. Thanks again for your help Kind regards Paul Paul Nugent 11 Sawyers Elmsett Ipswich Suffolk IP7 6QH tel: 01473 658932 Mobile 07899904017 email paul.nugent@xxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phil Medway Sent: 29 October 2006 14:10 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Laptop keyboard layout Hi Paul, If you are in English UK keyboard mode, the control/alt key+J will bring up the Jaws menu when Jaws is in laptop mode. Similarly, insert+j will do the same. I can't find a laptop keystroke for hot key help so you may have to find the insert key in order to use insert+h. If you need to find the insert key, try bringing up keyboard mode by pressing caps lock+1 on the top row then trying something like a modifier key+t until you hear insert+t followed by the description of what the key combination does. Of course, you turn off the keyboard help by caps lock+1 again. For what its worth, my insert key on the laptop is to the left of the right control key. HTH, Phil Medway philmedway@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx tel: 01869 347639 mobile: 07980 519990 Skype: philmedway ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Nugent" <paul.nugent@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 12:01 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Laptop keyboard layout Hi Claire, I understand the the insert key toggles between insert and overwrite mode when in a wordprocessor environment. If you press this key and the letter h what do you get. I am trying to duplicate the jaws key plus the letter H or J that I can invoke with the full keyboard on a laptop. Kind regards Paul Paul Nugent 11 Sawyers Elmsett Ipswich Suffolk IP7 6QH tel: 01473 658932 Mobile 07899904017 email paul.nugent@xxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Claire Doel Sent: 29 October 2006 11:29 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Laptop keyboard layout HI Paul, two things. The key to the right of my space bar is and alt key which if held down doubles as an accent key. Incidentally jaws would not tell me this, it stayed silent when I pressed the key so I had to ask my sighted partner. My insert key is on the top row second from the right edge of the keyboard my computer is a Toshiba hope this helps. Claire. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Nugent" <paul.nugent@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 10:17 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Laptop keyboard layout > Hi Robert, > > > You have been very helpful. I just wondered if you could tell me what the > key to the right of the spacebar on your machine says it is. I will then > get a sighted person to try and find it for me on this machine and on the > laptop of someone that I am at present giving training to. > > Thanks > > Paul > > Kind regards > > Paul > > Paul Nugent > 11 Sawyers > Elmsett > Ipswich > Suffolk IP7 6QH > > tel: 01473 658932 > Mobile 07899904017 > email paul.nugent@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On > Behalf Of Robert Winter > Sent: 28 October 2006 22:59 > To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Laptop keyboard layout > > Hi Paul, > > There may be an insert key located elsewhere on the laptop, if there is, > then that should work as well as the caps lock key. > > Sorry I cannot be of more help. > > Robert > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Nugent" <paul.nugent@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 7:50 PM > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Laptop keyboard layout > > >> Hi Robert, >> >> Thanks for your reply, unfortunately the key to the right of my spacebar >> is >> the alt key. Could you tell me what key yours is and I'll hunt around >> for >> it. >> >> Thanks >> >> Paul >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> Paul >> >> Paul Nugent >> 11 Sawyers >> Elmsett >> Ipswich >> Suffolk IP7 6QH >> >> tel: 01473 658932 >> Mobile 07899904017 >> email paul.nugent@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On >> Behalf Of Robert Winter >> Sent: 28 October 2006 11:28 >> To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Laptop keyboard layout >> >> Hi Paul, >> >> The key to the right of the space bar also works as an insert key as well >> as >> >> the caps lock key when jaws is used in laptop mode, so if one doesn't >> work, >> chances are the other will! >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Robert >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Paul Nugent" <paul.nugent@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 9:04 AM >> Subject: [jaws-uk] Laptop keyboard layout >> >> >>> Hi Folks, >>> >>> I have recently been playing with the laptop keyboard on someone's >>> laptop. >>> What I would like to know is when I am using the caps lock key as the >>> jaws >>> key, how do I invoke the insert-j and the insert-h key-strokes. I >>> expected >>> it to bring up the application sensitive help and the jaws menus >>> respectively, but this did not happen. 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