Hi Flor and all, That one sounds like a real pig and it doesn't even arise from the erroneous assumption about the right-hand alt key. When I first started computing, I used to be extremely reluctant to move my fingers from the home keys. In typing lessons at school this would instantly have brought a cane or board rubber crashing down on your knuckles. Here, I think the only option is to hit the 'i' with your left hand. Cheers Colin -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: 21 October 2005 00:43 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Key Combinations Regarding the use of the alt key: Has anybody else noticed that recent versions of JAWS also think that our alt-gr (right alt & ctrl key) is 'alt'; and not 'ctrl-alt' as JAWS used to know it? What it is is that they're taking the English-US keyboard layout as the norm: whereas, JAWS should be taking the correct key designation from whichever keyboard layout one is actually using at the time. There's a fairly acrobatic keystroke for registering (or something) your WordPerfect with JAWS, and that is, ctrl-insert-i. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Wood" <scott.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 11:48 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Key Combinations Hi Ian An interesting question. It's not only the four key ones that are contortionist. I find some of the three key ones pretty finger-twisting. The one I've been using recently is the MS Word one for insert the date, shift+alt+D. it's just that none of the keys fall into ergonomic simplicity and I have to hold down alt+D with the left hand, which isn't usual, and the shift with the right. Once you get used to it, it becomes easier but it takes some practice. I reckin we're running out of permutations. It would be interesting to hear whether anyone had any ideas about how we might find other ways of executing commands other than hotkeys. The old Frank Audiodata used to have a dedicated keypad wich could be programmed and you could do a lot more than you can these days without worrying about conflicting with other MS commands. Regards ... Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: Iain Lackie To: jaws Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 10:16 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Key Combinations Hello, I have had cause in recent days to use the four-key combination to examine the advanced features of webpage elements and it caused me to wonder if anyone would like to suggest what they think the most unreachable JAWS key combination might be. There is no doubt that Freedom Scientific encourage us to go in for a high degree of manual contortionism. Iain. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq