[jaws-uk] Re: Jaws interface ideas
- From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx>
- To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 15:45:22 +0100
Nigel,
yeah, maybe. But it would be as well to examine or find out the logic
behind FS's use of the shift keys as they have it. As I said before,
they must have had reasons for using the shift keys to perform the
particular functions they do, in preference to any other keys, in
sayAll. (Whether by accident or design, using right- and left-arrow
keys during SAYAll seems to work similarly to using left- and
right-shift keys.)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 3:08 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Jaws interface ideas
Flore,
Sorry I've just had a better idea.
What if we get rid of the shift keys and pressing home and end while in
say
all mode will move to the appropriate position and keep reading. But if
you
press them twice in quick succession then they move to the appropriate
position and stop reading.
What do you think,
Thanks,
Nigel
It's not what Operating system you use, it's how productive you are with
it.
----- Original Message -----
>From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 1:47 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Jaws interface ideas
>I think there may be some confusion which is probably my fault.
>
> What I meant is when in say all mode pressing the up arrow key will
move
> to the line above and keep reading. Pressing the down arrow key will
move
> to the next line and keep reading. You are able to read line by line
when
> doing this but Jaws just continues to talk. If you wanted the speech
to
> stop you could either press the stop speech key and jaws would stop
> speaking with the cursor at the beginning of the word you stopped on
and
> this word would be announced to the user. Or if the Home key is
pressed
> focus will move to the beginning of the current line and speech would
> stop.
>
> How does this sounds?
>
> Thanks,
> Nigel
> It's not what Operating system you use, it's how productive you are
with
> it.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx>
> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 3:54 PM
> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Jaws interface ideas
>
>
>> As I said, the home key is used to get to the beginning of the
current
>> line in Windows, so perhaps it, rather than the Up Arrow, might be
used.
>> I'd still want to be able to read line by line while in SayAll.
We're
>> no longer designing a JAWS from scratch; so that at any one time
there
>> are many, many more active users of the program than learning users
of
>> it. There must have been a reason why FS chose the shift key;
perhaps
>> it is more 'sticky' and/or flexible. Some key assignments are,
however,
>> possible to change. (Keyboard manager, etc.)
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 11:41 AM
>> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Jaws interface ideas
>>
>>
>> I tested Jaws when reading a line and when you stop speech and focus
>> returns
>> to the beginning of the line. I am proposing that you should stop at
>> the
>> begining of the word you stopped on and this word should be read out
to
>> the
>> user to confirm the cursor location.
>>
>> I think it makes more sense to use the up and down arrow keys rather
>> than
>> shift when in say all mode as this simplifies the number of keys
used.
>> If
>> you want to read by line you will still be able to but not while in
say
>> all
>> mode.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nigel
>> It's not what Operating system you use, it's how productive you are
with
>> it.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx>
>> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:17 PM
>> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Jaws interface ideas
>>
>>
>>> This functionality is present: but with the right-shift key for
going
>>> down a line and reading on, during SayAll; and left-shift for
reading
>>> from the beginning of current line and onwards, during SayAll. The
>>> Up-arrow key is for moving *up* a line, not for moving to the
>> beginning
>>> of current line (for which the home key is the standard). I believe
>>> that one should, always, have the option of reading text one line at
a
>>> time if one chooses.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 4:26 PM
>>> Subject: [jaws-uk] Jaws interface ideas
>>>
>>>
>>> I would like to suggest that for this screen reader that when you
are
>> in
>>> reed all mode pressing the down arrow key will move to the next line
>>> down
>>> and keep reading.
>>>
>>> Pressing the up arrow key will move to the beginning of the current
>> line
>>> and
>>> keep reading. If the up arrow is pressed when already at the
>> beginning
>>> of a
>>> line, IE if the up arrow key is pressed twice in quick succession.
>> Then
>>> the
>>> line above will be read and the screen reader will keep reading.
>>>
>>> If the user wishes to stop at any point he will press the stop
speech
>>> key
>>> and the focus will reside at the beginning of the word he stopped
on.
>>> To
>>> confirm this to the user this word will be read out.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nigel
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