Did you do it in reading mode? Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:01 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Jaws interface idea I have just tried pressing the shift key 8 times and it does not turn on stickey keys for me. Nigel It's not what Operating system you use, it's how productive you are with it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:52 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Jaws interface idea > Well, that's a point in favour of not having the shift key operating > thus. JAWS can only do so much... before Windows and the wiles of > Microsoft take over mastery. > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Barry" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:34 PM > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Jaws interface idea > > > Something I've just discovered is that, whilst in reading mode, if you > press > the same shift key five times, it activates sticky keys. What a voyage > of > discovery this subject has promoted. > > Barry H > > ----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 3:07 PM > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Jaws interface idea > > > Barry, > That's a good point. I usually use control to stop speech but perhaps I > should be using up arrow as sometimes control moves me a little way from > the > line where Jaws was speaking. This only seems to happen in Internet > Explorer though. When I pressed control when reading this email in read > all > mode Jaws stopped exactly where I pressed control. > > In the test I just did I had to press the up arrow twice to get to the > line > above so either way it was still 2 key presses for me. > > But I just found out that pressing the right arrow key has the same > effect > as right shift and the left arrow key the same as left shift. In other > words pressing the right arrow key when in say all mode moves to the > next > line and visa versa. But i would never have found this if i had not > been > testing the system. Not sure what to say next need time to think. > > Thanks, > Nigel > It's not what Operating system you use, it's how productive you are with > it. > ----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Barry" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 2:35 PM > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Jaws interface idea > > >> But how would you then move up a line and stop during say all. I > suppose >> you would have to stop the Say all, then use the cursor keys. That's > no >> great hassle though. >> >> Barry H >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 2:13 PM >> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Jaws interface idea >> >> >> Barry, >> I think the arrow keys are the best as this is easier to learn for the >> user >> and makes more sense than duplicating a function with unrelated keys. >> >> Thanks, >> Nigel >> It's not what Operating system you use, it's how productive you are > with >> it. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Barry" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:45 PM >> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Jaws interface idea >> >> >>> This would be similar to cue and review on a tape deck while in > reading >>> mode. I like the idea but I think it should be a different key, > perhaps >>> on >>> the number pad or even the letters q and r respectively. Yes, I know > cue >>> is >>> spelled with a c but the position on the keyboard is easier with q. >>> >>> Barry h >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 4:39 PM >>> Subject: [jaws-uk] Jaws interface idea >>> >>> >>> Just wanted to mention a possible interface idea. Has freedom and or >>> other >>> screen reader vendors ever considered using the up and down arrow > keys to >>> move up and down a line and keep reading when in reed all mode. In > the >>> case >>> of Jaws this would be instead of the shift keys. >>> >>> I think this would be more intuitive for a new user to learn. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Nigel >>> >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>> ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> ** and in the Subject line type >>> ** unsubscribe >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>> ** immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>> ** or send a message, to >>> ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>> ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> ** and in the Subject line type >>> ** unsubscribe >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>> ** immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>> ** or send a message, to >>> ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>> Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - 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