HI. yes this will happen, just hit the jaws ten instillation prog, then alt and r, then alt and n, i am only guessing here, as I do not use vista, have I got the number of steps correct? cheers. _____ From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brandon Misch Sent: 17 November 2008 20:41 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: JFW 10 installation issues i wasn't trying to tell anyone to ditch jaws. but to help them with it in case of a jaws crash or loss of speech. that's all. On Nov 17, 2008, at 3:33 PM, Peter Hallam wrote: We shouldn't have to use another screen reader to aid us with installing JAWS, if we were to take Brandon's suggestion to its logical conclusion, why not ditch JFW completely and just use NVDA for everything? Pete H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brandon Misch <mailto:bmisch2002@xxxxxxxxx> To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 8:26 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: JFW 10 installation issues well, you could try using a different screen reader to read that dialog like nvda for instance. On Nov 17, 2008, at 3:06 PM, Andrew Hodgson wrote: Hi, On two Vista machines I am using, I am finding that when JFW is being installed, a driver not signed box appears which has to be dismissed before the installation can complete. Jaws helpfully doesn't speak that box during the installation phase, so to any totally blind person, the installation would appear to "hang". Anyone else seen this? Thanks. Andrew. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3619 (20081117) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3619 (20081117) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com