I would say it has been a cost but it has been worth it. However, you could try free screenreaders such as NVDA and see if they meet your needs. On the Facebook question and your machine heating up, I cannot see that this is JAWS related. You are, after all , only running your web browser with Facebook. I think you should be checking for an underlying problem on this one. Iain -----Original Message----- From: Amie Slavin Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 1:34 PM To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: JAWS 13 So do you reckon that the current version was, with hindsight, worth the upgrade? Is JAWS actually better now than it was in previous versions? Thanks as always. A -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Iain Lackie Sent: 11 July 2011 11:43 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: JAWS 13 I haven't found any problems with my version of JAWS (12) and Facebook. Iain -----Original Message----- From: Amie Slavin Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:55 AM To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: JAWS 13 John I find JAWS causes tons of trouble with other applications. It hates Facebook so much that my laptop starts to smell, it gets so hot, if I stay on FB for more than a few minutes. I have a pretty high-spec computer but still JAWS crashes and freezes it often several times a day. All I ask from the newer versions is that they get nearer to the standards of stability people demand from mainstream programs. I upgraded to 10 in 08, I think (whenever it was new, anyway). Before that I was still on 5! The past is such a pleasant place to live, don't you think? :o) A -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John SAVAGE Sent: 11 July 2011 10:32 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: JAWS 13 There are bound to be bugs at first, there always are. Can't imagine why people rush to download a new release as soon as it comes out. Amie, if you think you're stuck in the past, I'm still on JAWS 7 and IE 6! There are an increasing number of sites where my computer freezes when I go onto them. I have plenty of RAM and HD, so presumably my outdated software causes the freezing? Clearly I need to upgrade soon. Will later versions of JAWS still work with Word 2003? I hope I won't have to convert all my Word files to a later format. How about OE 6? Would I need to upgrade that? John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amie Slavin" <amie.slavin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:14 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: JAWS 13 > Oh ok, thanks. What's the usual timescale for release, following > prelaunch > promo? I guess, and hope that, once ATW agree to fund it,I can wait a > little while, to see if it's working. > Any off-the-record reports yet? > Thanks for the post. > A > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On > Behalf Of George Bell > Sent: 11 July 2011 09:24 > To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: JAWS 13 > > It may be being shown at exhibitions, but it's not officially released > yet. > > George. > > -----Original Message----- > From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amie Slavin > Sent: 11 July 2011 09:17 > To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [jaws-uk] JAWS 13 > > Hi list > I've just had an Access To Work assessment in which it was suggested > that I should upgrade to the current version, now being 13, I gather. > I still feel like i haven't had 10 for 5 minutes. Don't want to be a > stick in the mud, but am slightly nervous of yet more changes. > > Wonder, what do you all make of 13? How is it working? 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