Thank you George, but do you know when that information will be available, it would give me a little confidence. Tony has just gone and you can see his reasons about being wary in putting Demonstration versions, he is slowly learning Jaws! I am telling him the key strokes I use as he would not know or use a mouse, he has had a go in the Verbosity Menus and I had printed off the Lists instructions plus Andrew, much better but arrowing down as I am now Jaws is at times wanting to tell me a bit too, you know Tahoma default and unrequited info.We have fix Word so word now if left a line does it instead of the reverse,and bold on underline are now factual not pot luck as before. So I will wait now until maybe I hear from the Powers that be that the patch or upgrade was or will be a fix for Black screen setting, seeing will believing I think. In any case will it be a difficult configuration all knobs and whistles that a lay person in a home situation would need a lot of tuition to masters. Incidentally this may be off Topic but West Kent College of further Education have closed their IT Department as they say they have run out of funding. I a friend of mine says they all got their notice last week,so checking my facts thismorning I telephoned and yes they shut up shopping July. I thought the Government was encouraging IT in schools and Colleges. Thanks Dorothy. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq