[jaws-uk] Re: Gates Signs Deal On Software For The Blind
- From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:19:28 -0000
No problem.
There are also instructions to get an faq at the end of each Jaws email. This
incluedes a clickable hyper link which i can't post as i have turned html off.
However there is also a plain text bit too.
** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
----- Original Message -----
Nigel ho ho ho
From: Michael Brown
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 5:53 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Gates Signs Deal On Software For The Blind
Hi George,
Sorry about that! calling you Nigel! It must be the christmas spirit?
Happy Christmas and a happy new year,
Michael.
----- Original Message -----
From: George Bell
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 5:42 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Gates Signs Deal On Software For The Blind
Send a message to
jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
In the subject, just the word
vacation
When you return, send another message to the same address, but this time
the Subject:-
unset vacation
George.
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From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Michael Brown
Sent: 18 December 2004 17:31
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Gates Signs Deal On Software For The Blind
Hi Nigel,
How do you get to to No Mail to switch this on if you are going away?
Cheers,
Michael.
----- Original Message -----
From: Nigel
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 7:04 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Gates Signs Deal On Software For The Blind
Hi Jane,
I take it you are going no mail while you are away? Just say hi when you
get back after you have turned no mail off. Or of course you can just leave it
and read it all when you get back.
Hope you have a good holiday,
Nigel P.S. Did you get my off list mail about Bradford that you were
asking about?
----- Original Message -----
From: Jane Sellers
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 5:39 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Gates Signs Deal On Software For The Blind
Hi Nigel,
I knew that you were only joking, and so was I in my reply, you never
know what may happen!
I hope you have a happy and peaceful Christmas and I look forward to
receiving your mail in the New Year as I have signed off as from Tomorrow until
the 31st so I shall have to wish you a Happy New Year when I come back on to
the list what do yo do when you have returned from holiday do you still have to
put in a message saying returned from holiday ? I am a little bemused by this
any help appreciated.
kind regards
Love
From
Jane
----- Original Message -----
From: Nigel
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 12:38 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Gates Signs Deal On Software For The Blind
Jane, Don't worry as with the rest of that email I was only joking.
I am not really into gambolling!
Hope you have your computer sorted now?
Happy Christmas,
Nigel
----- Original Message -----
From: Jane Sellers
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 12:43 AM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Gates Signs Deal On Software For The Blind
Hi Nigel,
I feel i have to reply to you about this, no i am not emigrating
just yet. But I am going to Spain for 10 days and yes it was a really
interesting article, I had been drawn to the attrention of this by RNIB 's
Lorraine Brown who is a emplioyment person at Judd Street so i knew a little
about the organisation but it would be nice to go and have a look on their web
page and if anyone has the url to the spanish association it would be
interesting to see if their mobil phone called Oasis is on the site although
that is another matter.
all the best for Christmas and the new year
all the best
from
Jane
----- Original Message -----
From: Nigel
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 12:22 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Gates Signs Deal On Software For The Blind
Thanks for this Barry. This explains why Jane has gone off to
Spain for ten days, did she say anything about emigrating while she was there?
It sounds like we could learn a lot from this organisation, even
if we aren't a nation of gambolling addicts. Now what's the URL for that
Ladbrokes site again? I want to put a ten a on "Dead Dog" in the three thirty
at New Market.
Nigel
----- Original Message -----
From: Barry
To: Jaws list
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 7:09 AM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Gates Signs Deal On Software For The
Blind
Do you know why Bill Gates is developing the software in Spain?
It might have something to do with the Spanish association for the blind
running a national lottery and, therefore, being one of the richest companies
in Spain. Bill Gates may give a lot to charity but he is still a business man
and has to look after his shareholders.
Here's an article from the Spanish National Federation of the
Blind that I wish all governments would adopt :
SPANISH BLIND GROUP THRIVES ON LARGESS OF LOTTERY
By: CIARAN GILES
Editor?s Note: The following article is re-printed from the
Associated Press, May 29, 2000.
MADRID, Spain (AP) - The Spanish Civil War killed and maimed
hundreds of thousands of soldiers and civilians and left much of Spain in
ruins. Yet, for one
disabled group, the war's legacy has had advantages.
No one knows how many people were blinded in the 1936-39
conflict, but eager to rid himself of the problem, dictator Francisco Franco
ordered them to form
a national organization and take care of themselves. To
encourage them, he granted the right to create a national lottery. Six decades
later, with Franco
long dead and democracy fully restored, the National
Organization of Blind Spaniards has blossomed into one of Spain's most
successful businesses and one
of the world's most dynamic disabled support groups.
"There's no doubt about it, if you're going to be blind, be
Spanish," quips Miguel Callejas, a blind man who has sold lottery tickets the
past 28 years
for ONCE, the Spanish acronym for the organization. Lottery
drawings, staged every day except Saturday, bring in the equivalent of dlrs 2.3
billion a year.
Profits enable the organization to guarantee employment for
nearly all of Spain's 60,000 blind.
"I know of nothing even comparable to the ONCE in the entire
world," said Edwin Vaughan, a blind sociology professor at the University of
Missouri who has
studied how countries view and treat blind people. "In nearly
every country, the United States included, blindness is associated with begging
and the blind
are virtually totally dependent on welfare assistance with
employment opportunities severely limited," he said. "In Spain, it's the
opposite."
In the United States, unemployment among the blind rarely falls
below 70 percent, while in Spain, it's hardly ever above 5 percent, Vaughan
said. The European
Blind Union says its latest figures, for 1995, showed that out
of 41,000 blind adults available for work in Germany, only 9,000 had a job. In
France, only
7,000 of the 18,000 working age blind were employed. ONCE
receives no government subsidy and its board is independent and elected every
four years by its
members, all blind or sight-impaired. The growth of the lottery
allowed ONCE to gradually build up a business empire with stakes in everything
from hotels
to construction. In the 1980s, it branched into the media,
founding a private national TV channel, a national daily newspaper and a
popular radio chain.
But sensing expansion was tarnishing its more-important image
as a caring group for the disabled, ONCE sold off its principal media holdings
-- at a profit.
Nowadays, ONCE is as Spanish as bullfighting, sidewalk cafes
and soccer. Vendors wearing dark glasses and carrying canes pace the streets in
nearly every
village, barking out, "Lucky numbers for today!" In the cities,
single vendors sit in enclosed ONCE kiosks, selling tickets through glass
windows.
The lottery has thrived not only because Spaniards love to
gamble, but because of clever marketing and slick advertising. Midweek coupons
sell for 200 pesetas
(dlrs 1.25), offering a chance at 500 daily top prizes of 5
million pesetas (dlrs 33,000) each and thousands of smaller winnings. The No. 1
prize for the
Sunday lottery pays dlrs 58,000 a year for 25 years.
Totally independent since 1982, ONCE plows its profits into
serving its members. It runs Europe's biggest guide dog school, a factory whose
products include
canes, children's Braille sets and portable speech-activated
computers and social rehabilitation centers. It also works with other
companies, such as Microsoft,
to develop systems and technical innovations for the blind. On
a more public level, ONCE runs a touch-and-feel art Museum for the Blind. In
1998, it organized
an international competition in Madrid for blind athletes. In
recent years, ONCE has supported projects for the blind abroad, including in
several Latin
American nations, notably Chile and Argentina.
ONCE estimates there are 150 million blind people in the world,
but many poor countries do not keep records on who and where they are. "The
ONCE's idea
is that the blind should care for the blind. In most countries,
nobody looks after them at all," said Rafael Mondaca, the organization's
director of international
relations. ONCE recognizes that even though it is private, it
has a privileged position and the government could withdraw its lottery rights
or grant licenses
to other causes. "Fortunately, it wouldn't make business sense
for the Spanish government to do so because it knows that if ONCE crumbled it
would then
be responsible for looking after the blind itself," said Pedro
Zurrita, who heads the World Blind Organization, which is based in Madrid.
"For the Civil War authorities, it was a load off their mind,"
he said. "Back then no one thought the lottery was ever going to be so
successful. It's unlikely
that any government would do it today."
Barry H
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