[jaws-uk] Re: Fw: Case notes arival.
- From: "Brian Lingard" <b.lingard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:43:53 -0400
Ottawa Canada
Dear Dorothy and List:
I'm not certain what your dealings with Moorefield's Eye Hospital
and your local trust hospital regarding the presence or lack
thereof of your health records has to do with the use of the JAWS
screen reader, which is the topic of this list.
I and probably most other people on this list wish you the very
best of British Luck in your dealings with the various hospitals
in your life, but your very long train of messages to and fro use
up a lot of bandwidth on this list.
Brian
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-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dorothy
Ingram-Gorban
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:52 AM
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Fw: Case notes arival.
I know you will have to intercept this, just cannotbe helped but
one way or
another small battles are bing won rachael is my Mp Pa and Greg
clark is
helpful with DDA matters not easy however Dorothy
----- Original Message -----
From: "GODFREY, Rachel" <GODFREYR@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Dorothy Ingram-Gorban'" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 4:30 PM
Subject: RE: Case notes arival.
Many thanks - I'll certainly pass this on to Greg.
Regards
Rachel
Rachel Godfrey
Constituency Manager
Greg Clark MP
Tel: 0207 219 1773
-----Original Message-----
From: Dorothy Ingram-Gorban
[mailto:dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 15 October 2009 15:32
To: GODFREY, Rachel
Subject: Re: Case notes arival.
Rachael regarding Liz Woskett the rnib legal girl, I had to
break the news
to her in October of
----- Original Message ----- 2006 that the concilliation arm of
the DRC as
it was named then had gone into receivrship I had just dealt with
a bank
called Ing Direct and got my claim done in time liz was then in
Judd Street
not in Peterborough, she was just getting the news in,I remember
her
saying"Oh what shall we do all these claims we have in the
pipeline and my
saying just do your best with existing claiments, it was luck on
my side
getting it through and Greg wrote later to Bob Nivan on my
behalf, so it
took 2 years for the Equality and Human Rights act to be drawn up
a long
time. liz was unwell for a very long time and is a moorfields
patient
herself and is back working Part time down in Peterborough I
thought if I
gave this little snapshot Greg would like to know she has some
sight but
does not know her future so I have battled with moorfields and
she withE.On,
Regards Dorothy Please let Greg see this Email
From: "GODFREY, Rachel" <GODFREYR@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Dorothy Ingram-Gorban'" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:02 PM
Subject: RE: Case notes arival.
Dear Mrs Ingram-Gorban
Yes, Greg was shocked to learn that they had been rated weak
again. The
Quality Care Commission has pointed out that these targets relate
to April
2008, which is only two months after the Trust's new management
was
appointed, and that improvements have been made since then.
But I think it's Greg's view that this can't go on and if things
don't
improve significantly this year, there should be a change in
management.
Regards
Rachel
Rachel Godfrey
Constituency Manager
Greg Clark MP
Tel: 0207 219 1773
-----Original Message-----
From: Dorothy Ingram-Gorban
[mailto:dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 15 October 2009 07:15
To: GODFREY, Rachel
Subject: Fw: Case notes arival.
Hallo again In addition greg will hear on the news today the
news about
Maidstone Trust and in particular Kent and Sussex, not happy
listening I am
not sure what the additional regulations with achieve I am trying
to absorb
what they really mean Regards Dorothy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "GODFREY, Rachel" <GODFREYR@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:32 PM
Subject: Fw: Case notes arival.
> Just to update you I have lodged my complaint with Health
Ombudsman's
> Office and Tim Goss of Icas is putting it all together for me,
I do think
> if recommendations are made by an external Body like the health
> ombudsman's office things may improve as long as I can recall
my notes
> have vanished and photographs. I am also glad if nothing else
Moorfields
> understand the DDA act and are using adept transcription
services so other
> patients can ask and not be told "we do not have anything to
record
> with,that is perhaps the best I can say I hope Greg is well and
I know he
> will be busy of course regards Dorothy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Transcription" <Transcription@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:21 PM
> Subject: Fw: Case notes arival.
>
>
>> Hallo Claire if they have lost the ones before the Yag lazer
and cataract
>> damage, they were the ones I have been asking for of course I
do not
>> think mr Dowler will have forgotten being on radio 4 at all it
no doubt
>> generated a good few letters to him and he would have a
transcription of
>> the programme he either did not get it at all, like my hand
delivered
>> letter taken on April this year for Mr Andrews or more likely
did not
>> want to comment upon another Hospitals mistakes namely the
maidstone
>> Trust. I hope your reader knows I really do appreciate his
efforts and
>> even more I do hope moorfields will use your services so
others can have
>> some independence and privacy as for any surgical decision I
make I will
>> just have a good think at least I know the worst regards
Dorothy
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tate, Helen" <Helen.Tate@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:37 PM
>> Subject: RE: Case notes arival.
>>
>>
>> Dear Dorothy
>>
>> As far as I can tell there are no photos from 1990 in your
file but can
>> confirm that you now have copies of everyting that is on the
file. I
>> appreciate that some of these copies may be difficult to
decipher and
>> that is why I suggested you come in to look at the originals.
>>
>> I do not know whether Mr Dowler received your letter but there
is
>> certainly no response on the file. After five years I suspect
he may not
>> remember himself.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Helen
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dorothy Ingram-Gorban
[mailto:dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: 14 October 2009 13:30
>> To: Tate, Helen
>> Subject: Re: Case notes arival.
>>
>> thank you I will think about it but can you tell me where any
photos
>> are now.
>> please have you got the photos for 1990? as ref letter to
Prof Bird
>> several from my Gp Dr P J Ball and finally in 1996 John Bell
>> ophthalmologist, I still have no idea what you have as
mentioned if
>> Professor Bird said all my File had gone missing except for a
few
>> fragments and I was given a new File what actually is there?
also re my
>> letter to Jonathan Dowler which is in the paperwork sent
April 2004 did
>> he ever receive it? I did not have any acknowledgement Regards
Dorothy
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tate, Helen" <Helen.Tate@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:43 PM
>> Subject: RE: Case notes arival.
>>
>>
>> Dear Dorothy
>>
>> Thank you for your recent emails and it is clear that now you
have
>> received the audio tape of your records you have several
queries about
>> them which I am probably not going to be able to answer.
>>
>> Would it be helpful for you to come into Moorfields and go
through the
>> originals with a member of staff (possibly a nurse)who would
then be
>> able to assist with your queries ?
>>
>> If so, please let me know and I will make the necessary
arrangements.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Helen
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dorothy Ingram-Gorban
[mailto:dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: 13 October 2009 16:46
>> To: Tate, Helen
>> Subject: Re: Case notes arival.
>>
>> I have replied but am not sure if the condition of the
paperwork you
>> have is decipherable the sheets of pencil and many different
>> Consultants writing were of course impossible to read, as you
have the
>> originals they would beI hope understandable by a Consultant?
If not a
>> Medical Secretary please letme know the dates of photographs
do you have
>> the 1990 that Professor Bird took me himself to have taken? It
was after
>> that they gaveme a file with"new patient on it as they had all
vanished
>> it seems from prof birds letter of
>> 1996 he says only fragments came to light .dorothy
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tate, Helen" <Helen.Tate@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Cc: "Burke, Mary" <Mary.Burke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 2:40 PM
>> Subject: RE: Case notes arival.
>>
>>
>> Dear Dorothy
>>
>> Thank you for letting us know that the copies of your
non-written notes
>> and the audio tape of your written notes have now arrived
safely.
>>
>> In your email you have asked whether certain letters etc are
in your
>> notes and I can confirm that you now have copies of everything
that we
>> have here.
>>
>> Yes, Mr Jonathan Dowler does still work here.
>>
>> I do hope you will find both the copies and the tape helpful.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Helen
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dorothy Ingram-Gorban
[mailto:dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: 12 October 2009 14:00
>> To: Burke, Mary
>> Cc: Tate, Helen
>> Subject: Case notes arival.
>>
>> this is just to let you know the packet of papers and one Tape
which is
>> a recording of the notes is now in my hands and I will update
you later
>> about anything I cannot understand, I do not have any person
here to
>> help me make sense of them however I can say the notes were
photocopies
>> and a lot of print did not come out and some was in pencil and
on some
>> sheets several different people have written if the
photocopies are not
>> readable then of course no reader can make them so. I get the
over all
>> impression however because I have a good memory, and I see my
Gp who is
>> now retired Peter J Ball of Kingswood Surgery wrote a good
many times
>> asking about photographs I had taken in 1990, it took until
about 1996
>> for an answer and them only because I told John Bell his
Initials Jab
>> are Mr Bell consultant at Pembury Hospital and before Kent and
Sussex Mr
>> bell wished me to attend a special Meeting where a large
number of
>> Consultants from around the county and further were wanting
people with
>> Interesting Case history to spend some hours being examined, I
was on
>> that occasion only prepared to go through it all again,on
condition Mr
>> bell contacted Professor Bird and ask him about my missing
case notes,
>> I then got a letter from Prof Bird with profuse apologies,
and I could
>> guess as I have typed in one letter to him that John Bell had
nudged
>> Alan, and of course John Bell also said Alan Bird would be at
the
>> conference and I then agreed. well Prof Bird was not there and
after I
>> had been examined by a fair number of Ophthalmologists I had
enough and
>> asked for a taxi home. I wonder if you can tell me do you have
any
>> photos taken in 1990? Prof Bird took me by hand to see the
photographer
>> I think it was November 17th but you will see. additionally do
you have
>> on file my visit to see Donald Macloud? this was perhaps in
1985 in
>> summer I was referred by Mr Salmon of Kent and Sussex, mr
Salmon was the
>> Consultant who when I complained of visual problems increasing
said"Well
>> dear your retinas are rotting" and when I asked but what about
laser
>> treatment said"What do you think Lasers are magic wands" Mr
salmon was
>> not meaning to be brutal it was his manner, I knew his
Secretary who
>> lived at that time on this hill, she said"I fear he has no
idea he
>> upsets people the other day a poor man collapsed in front of
him" they
>> had to give him first aid. I told her never mind he is
nicknamed "the
>> Big fish, she knew that. it was possibly not known to Mr
salmon. I am
>> particularly interested in a letter I wrote to your mr dowler
after
>> hearing him on Radio 4 medicine now. I wrote to Professor Bird
asking
>> him about it,I seem not to have had a reply from mr Dowler, I
may have
>> misspell his name if he is still with you can you tell me? On
the radio
>> he said something of great interest which was about cataract
surgery and
>> different kinds of lens, he was advising patients who wanted
to keep
>> near vision not to have Silicone lenses and my interest of
course was
>> after the Cataract and the silicone implants I was never able
to read
>> again with the near to centre slot of retina in left eye the
day before
>> the surgery I was reading point 14 print Mr Dowler was saying
have
>> acrylic lens if you need to have near vision as a
priority,please can
>> you see that letter and letme know which are the earliest
notes you have
>> and photos. However the detail would need to be read by a
Doctor with
>> knowledge about Retinal surgery and front of eye mr John Bell
was not
>> willing to do a lens exchange some years ago but now he said
he would,so
>> he may have taken training in performing victrectomy I think
John Dart
>> doesn't undertake victrectomy one last thing the reader at
adept hhad a
>> brave stab at pseudo Fakir actually I think the word bilateral
is in
>> front of it. I typed pseudo in my Difine a wordOcr and Fakir
and was
>> somewhat astonished at the results. dorothy surgery and I in
the light
>> of John Bell's offer I felt the need to have a good look over
my past
>> medical notes and case History. Regards Dorothy Ingram
Gorban..
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>>
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