Thanks very much, Shirley. That sounds a great way round the problem. I'll try it next time. Best wishes, Joan. -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of shirley clow Sent: 15 June 2012 11:51 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Empty PDF document Hello Joan, I have come across this problem with JAWS and the PDF files. If you try going into the menu bar and saving it as a text file, you will find it saves as a Note Pad doc, into My documents, and then JAWS will read it!... Good luck, Shirley. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Muir" <wjmuir.twadugs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:25 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Empty PDF document > Thanks, Jamie and Frank. > > I decided to try the Kurzweil route but could only find a Kesi to fax > printer. However, I used the context menu to print the document and it > worked well. Then I was able to have Kurzweil read and save it. > > Thanks again. > > Best wishes, > > Joan. > > -----Original Message----- > From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On > Behalf Of Jamie Cuthbertson > Sent: 14 June 2012 20:09 > To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Empty PDF document > > Hi Joan, > > > You are probably meaning trying to read it with the Convenient OCR > feature. > Press Insert+Spacebar followed by "O" for OCR and then "W" for window. > > > > In any of these layered commands, you can press a Question Mark (?) to get > a > list of the valid commands at that time. > > > > Another option, if you have it, is to try using Kurzweil 1000. To do > this, > from the PDF document, press Control+P to go into the printing dialogue > box. > From the list of available printers, select the "KESI Virtual Printer" and > this will automatically launch Kurzweil and it will try to read the whole > document. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Jamie > > > > > > From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On > Behalf Of Joan Muir > Sent: 14 June 2012 20:01 > To: jaws list > Subject: [jaws-uk] Empty PDF document > > > > Hello, Folks, > > > I know there's a way for Jaws to cope with a PDF document which is > announced > as being blank. I think you have to use the insert +spacebar but I can't > remember what you do then. > > > > I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 13. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Joan. > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 7222 (20120614) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature > database 7222 (20120614) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. 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