Hi Joan, To be honest, I can't remember as it's been a long time since I installed Kurzweil. Having said that, I think your document files are pretty safe - if you were worried about them, you could just take a copy of them to a separate part of the hard drive and then copy them back again afterwards. Jamie From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joan Muir Sent: 15 June 2012 11:48 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Empty PDF document Thanks, Jamie. No, the virtual printer for Kesi definitely isn't there. I'd be worried about reinstalling Kurzweil in case I lose the files I have. Is there an option for repair maybe? Best wishes, Joan. -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamie Cuthbertson Sent: 15 June 2012 10:39 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Empty PDF document Hi Joan, I'm very surprised that the KESI Virtual Printer wasn't on the list of available printers as this gets installed automatically when Kurzweil is installed. It's certainly worth double checking for it - perhaps out of the logical order - as this is definitely the way to go if you've got Kurzweil 1000. The Convenient OCR is OK but it can only read what is on the screen and won't allow you to read the whole of a document. If you definitely can't find the KESI Virtual Printer listed, it is probably worth considering a re-install of Kurzweil as this feature is a real gem when faced with the kind of situation you describe. Jamie From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joan Muir Sent: 14 June 2012 22:25 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Empty PDF document Thanks, Jamie and Frank. I decided to try the Kurzweil route but could only find a Kesi to fax printer. However, I used the context menu to print the document and it worked well. Then I was able to have Kurzweil read and save it. Thanks again. Best wishes, Joan. -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamie Cuthbertson Sent: 14 June 2012 20:09 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Empty PDF document Hi Joan, You are probably meaning trying to read it with the Convenient OCR feature. Press Insert+Spacebar followed by "O" for OCR and then "W" for window. In any of these layered commands, you can press a Question Mark (?) to get a list of the valid commands at that time. Another option, if you have it, is to try using Kurzweil 1000. To do this, from the PDF document, press Control+P to go into the printing dialogue box. From the list of available printers, select the "KESI Virtual Printer" and this will automatically launch Kurzweil and it will try to read the whole document. Hope this helps. Jamie From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joan Muir Sent: 14 June 2012 20:01 To: jaws list Subject: [jaws-uk] Empty PDF document Hello, Folks, I know there's a way for Jaws to cope with a PDF document which is announced as being blank. I think you have to use the insert +spacebar but I can't remember what you do then. I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 13. Any help would be appreciated. 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