[jaws-uk] Re: Dorothy's Problem

  • From: "Nigel" <stoppard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 17:01:46 +0100

Angel,
Good point.  I also mentioned super nova as that is a combined magnifier and 
screen reader.  I don't know if Guide can do white on black but if it can that 
will be much easier to use I would think.

Nigel
It's not what Operating system you use, it's how productive you are with it.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Angel 
  To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 3:11 PM
  Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Dorothy's Problem


  It would have made more sense to give her a program such as zoom text or 
magic.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Will Pearson 
    To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 1:37 AM
    Subject: [jaws-uk] Dorothy's Problem


    Hi,

    I've taken a look at Dorothy's problem, thanks to Léoni Watson for bringing 
this to my attention.

    The problem stems from the fact that the design of JAWS appears to treat 
all white text on a black background as being text that has been selected by 
the user.  The NewTextEvent, which is responsible for reading any newly written 
text to the screen, then reads all the newly written selected text in addition 
to the current line.  This will occur when you add text to an edit control, 
scroll an edit control, or anything that changes the displayed text.

    Eric Damery's suggestion of disabling the use of "Windows standard 
highlighting" within JAWS will resolve this problem, although it will cause 
problems elsewhere, such as not being able to read menus, and as such isn't a 
valid suggestion.  This should be curable by modifying various JAWS scripts to 
change the logic in the NewTextEvent to realise that white text on a black 
background doesn't always equate to the semantics of selected text.  However, 
this would be a required change in every script that implements the 
NewTextEvent, and as such the easier fix would be for Freedom Scientific to do 
a bug fix on their false assumption of white text on a black background always 
equating to selected text.

    If you upgraded to JAWS 6.10, I think it is, you may get some benefit from 
the Enhanced Edit Mode feature that they introduced in that version.  Although, 
I have to point out that the Enhanced Edit Mode feature has it's own set of 
problems.

    Will


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