Thanks for researching that. I do know that I did not hear any of it the Read only edit and mouse over until a few months ago I moved from Jaws 4.51 to 7 and it is the same with Jaws 8. Now my laptop is un-muted I shall feel more confident about trying to get rid of them. I will record on my little tape recorders, I often do this and then play it back, pause a bit and bit by bit get it right. The thing is if I make a mess of it I will only feel helpless and mad that I did it. You know even if a sighted person does come to visit, they are scared to touch Jaws,"how do I turn this thing off" well it is understandable they don't want to make it worse either. . the other extraneous matter like equals 20 using O.e is at the lists end. and I do not think any cure is around. . Thanks again. Dorothy. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq