[jaws-uk] Re: Captcha killer

  • From: "alex thynne" <alex.thynne@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:55:20 +0100

Hi Tris

I had a success story with TalkTalk.  I couldn't get into the members forums
area because of a capture issue, and when I reported to them that
screenreaders like jaws can't read them, they told me they would take it
off.  They created the account for me and told me to change the password
they gave me when I logged in.  I don't find the site quite as good as I
thought, but that's just one example of a company I use for my internet and
broadband, taking notice of a problem a blind customer has in accessing the
part of the service that may be of interest.

Alex
skype name: grytpype2006
windows live messenger name: alex.thynne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Tristram Llewellyn
Sent: 16 June 2008 11:50
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Captcha killer


"It seems to me that, while such sites as Captcha Killer and others are
well-meaning, the general trend is that they (a) don't work, and (b) are
usually suspect anyway. "

Sites would certainly be aware of the security risk involved because as
you correctly identify such technology not is not exclusively in the
hands of well meaning good guy services.  Many will have upgraded their
systems, some of whichi must be quite poor if CAPTCHA killer can break
them.

Hopefully systems like Open ID will gain wider adoption and therefore
allow visually impaired users to successfully sidestep the CAPTCHA
problem whilst also gaining a verifiable identity on the web they can
use with multiple sites.  I don't know how many sites other people have
to log into but mine must be in the many tens now and even remembering
their respective logins is now very difficult.


Regards.

Tristram Llewellyn
Technical Support
Sight and Sound Technology
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From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Mark Driesenga
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 11:37 AM
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Captcha killer


It seems to me that, while such sites as Captcha Killer and others are
well-meaning, the general trend is that they (a) don't work, and (b) are
usually suspect anyway.  Heaven only knows what may be the actual
intention of some of these "services"!  This is why I choose not to use
them in the first place, but it certainly doesn't surpsie me that it
wouldn't work.  Mark
Email: truthobjective@xxxxxxxxx or truthobjective@xxxxxxxxxxx
WLM: truthobjective@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Yahoo: msdriesnega
Skype: markdriesenga

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Audrey Tonge <mailto:audrey.tonge@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
        To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 5:05 AM
        Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Captcha killer

        Ken,

        I have used this site and qquite frankly it doesn't work!  If
you read some of the comments on there, people are complaining that it
doesn't work.  To answer the click question, I was unable to do this
until I useed Jaws 8, position the cursor on the immage and right click
it, this will bring up the menu you want.

        Don't think it will help you though, smiles.

        Audrey



                ----- Original Message -----
                From: Ken Reid <mailto:ken.reid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                To: Jaws Users <mailto:jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 9:57 AM
                Subject: [jaws-uk] Captcha killer

                All,

                Many thanks to everyone who helped on the web site
security issue,and the helpful advice on captcha killers.  Looks like we
VIPs have a long struggle on our hands with this one.  Guess some noisy
lobbying would help.

                One question of anyone who has used captcha killer.  The
notes say to click on the image to create a picture file, but how do we
do that when the image has no label?  Does the click need to be
accurately positioned?

                After posting the original question, I thought I had a
brainwave, to print the page and run it through my OCR scanner, but I
gather from what has been said that it would not work.  Oh well.

                More power to our ears!

                Ken


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