Hi George and all, If this woman continues to clog up this list with irrelevant ramblings of a totally off topic nature with no bearing on Jaws related issues, then i for one are going to unsubscribe from this jaws user group!! if this continues, as this would be a shame as i have otherwise found this list to be very informative, with the very helpful replies i have had with my jaws questions in the past. This list is in danger of being destroyed if like me, people decide to leave!! just for the sake of one individual!! If this continues, i will be off!! The kindness you spread today will be gathered up and returned to you tomorrow. Michael Brown member of TAFN (The Accessible Friends Network). www.tafn.org.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 11:42 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Cables cut throug only stop and think once in a blue moon, do you really want to discuss a Jaws related topic, such as why does this lady need to use Lunar to work with Jaws, even latest versionsof Jaws, of course not some problems are not dealt with openly are they? so what do you do about it? Keep it outof sight Ok if you canot think further that sorry for you, re the Cables well lateston that is not until March will the tarmac be dug up and cables repaired and lucky for you this did not happen to you. Now on sunday it is Mothers Day and assuming you had one all together lads and laddies shout " Off Topic" ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <david.tregellas@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:57 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Cables cut throug > The individual who started this thread has already had a public warning > brought against her by the Moderator. She is rarely on topic and seems to > think that she can pass on any information about people no matter what the > topic. > > I know that many complaints have been brought against her and that she has > already been thrown off a list. I have also been informed that this list > is a public list but the one she was thrown out of was a membership list. > This means that the Moderator is in a much more difficult position. > > I hope I haven't said too much. I believe she is wrecking this list and > it was, indeed, getting increasingly quiet until the last two days or so. > I am making a stand against her, in a gentle way I think, because I don't > believe it should all be left to George, the Moderator. > > Undoubtedly she would have been thrown off this list long ago for her > cavalier behaviour. I believe people are reluctant to confront her > because they don't want to become a target; that I understand. > > That's enough. > > David > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phill" <phill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:01 PM > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Cables cut throug > > >> Forgive me George & Dorothy, >> But to many people the fact is the cable was cut and if you were a Jaws >> user >> with that cut cable you would not be able to read this so it must be Jaws >> related, for most people we like to hear what is happening to other >> people, >> be it jaws related or not, this list is predominantly Jaws related and >> helps >> out a lot of people with their problems. >> >> Lighten up why do some have to keep pointing out it's not on topic, Most >> of >> us Know if it's not on topic and they're not interested they can delete >> if >> they want too, they don't have to spit out their dummy and do a song and >> dance about it, everything we read and hear is not what we all want to >> hear >> about, would they prefer long silences with no one talking! After all >> doe's >> it really matter it's life as we know it. >> >> It brightens my day once in a while to hear about our George's under-ware >> , >> and our Dorothy's fantastic memory about it LOL. >> My old mum used to say "if he spits is dummy owt agin e'll turn into a >> miserable sod" that might be true. >> >> Sorry just trying to bring a little light heartedness into the reply. >> Enough said will go to bed. >> >> Phill >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On >> Behalf Of Jim Williams >> Sent: 28 February 2008 18:06 >> To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Cables cut throug >> >> Modirator, can we stop this completely pointless rambling or I for one >> will >> consider leaving this list. >> >> Jim Williams >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of David >> Sent: 28 February 2008 17:56 >> To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Cables cut throug >> >> >> You are still off topic. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 5:11 PM >> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Cables cut throug >> >> >>> but can you answer the question David? Did you manage to get your claim >>> dealt with and did you manage to get compensation, straight question >>> deserves straight answer Dorothy >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "David" <david.tregellas@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 5:04 PM >>> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Cables cut throug >>> >>> >>>> You are still off topic. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:09 PM >>>> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Cables cut throug >>>> >>>> >>>>> are you the same David who told us about your powersurge and Guilford >>>>> Power supply? if so you should understand then since they have no >>>>> phones only Mobiles and will be by the end of this week without any >>>>> internet connection and as you know it can happen to you, I only >>>>> hope >>>>> you did get compensation that you were seeking, many Vi's work from >>>>> home, after I spoke to the company I did remember how awful it can be >>>>> to >>>>> be alone and cut off, I also got to wondering why both companies are >>>>> disclaiming responsibility. I then remembered that so far as >>>>> Insurance >>>>> is concerned you are supposed never to admit liability, Policies are >>>>> drafted this way. anyway I noted even if you were cut off you did >>>>> manage to use Jaws and many may not be as clever as you are in being >>>>> able to do that if all communications are severed. you are lucky I >>>>> think Dorothy >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "David" <david.tregellas@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 1:46 PM >>>>> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Cables cut throug >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I'm sure your friends can speak for themselves. This is a list about >>>>>> Jaws, not your friends. >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <dorothy.ingram-gorban@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 12:29 PM >>>>>> Subject: [jaws-uk] Cables cut throug >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi , I do not think I need to justify this Post in view of what >>>>>>> happened to >>>>>>> David Wood, the Friend I know nearby tells me it will be days >>>>>>> before >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> get any service back, a company called Instaler Com limited in >>>>>>> connection with a company Global Crossings have tarmaced over the >>>>>>> damaged >>>>>>> cables, and are already disclaiming responsibility, my particular >>>>>>> friend has >>>>>>> had an Engineer at her house all morning and he tells her that >>>>>>> until >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> come back and dig up the road and put the damage right the only >>>>>>> thing >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> Mobile cnection >>>>>>> o like David not many are actually cut off, but it is >>>>>>> interesting that the first response of the 2 companies is to deny >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> fault is theirs. I tell you this in case you find having a computer >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> using Jaws you should find yourself in such a spot. the friend >>>>>>> has >>>>>>> given >>>>>>> me a phone number to find out more about the company the Bt >>>>>>> Engineer >>>>>>> gave >>>>>>> her the name of. 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