[jaws-uk] Re: [6 December 2007 Part IV - Leonie
- From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 20:55:35 -0000
Hi,
I mainly use the magnification for use with diagrams etc. At work I use
Microsoft Magnifier nearly all day, because I use secure databases and am doing
server administration on Windows for a lot of my time. I don't mind this
actually; I find full screen magnification difficult to get on with, as when
you move the mouse only a little bit, the screen moves a lot! Whereas, with a
small window at the top of the screen magnified, I can see what I want, and
still get a feel for where I am in the window.
The colour inversion is a useful feature; but I used it more when reading long
documents, and when programming.
I use speech without magnification or colour inversion when doing emails,
Internet browsing et al, some say I am lazy, but I say it is just easier for
me, and allows me to use the time I need to use a magnifier more effectively.
Andrew.
-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Léonie Watson
Sent: 06 December 2007 20:14
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: [6 December 2007 Part IV - Leonie
It's good to have some input from someone who can give some
practical advice on this. The emails I looked at were with Outlook and in
plain text, which would possibly account for the more stable results I
appeared to get.
I understand completely your point about the bright white effect
that can come out of inverting colours in monochrome. Out of interest, do
you use the combination of Lunar and Jaws for any reason? Without any sight,
it's difficult to say, but I'd imagine that screen magnification with speech
in one would be of more advantage? I guess it must be a fine tip over point
between using magnification as your primary technology and moving to rely on
speech entirely.
Regards,
Léonie.
-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Andrew Hodgson
Sent: 06 December 2007 19:58
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: [6 December 2007 Part IV - Leonie
Hi,
Unfortunately my tests have not been so good - I quite often use high
contrast colour when doing certain things, or when my eyes get tired, and I
find that Jaws speech gets quite erratic at times - more so in high contrast
colour than in standard colour - especially when selecting items. Also,
Jaws is by no means the only program which misbehaves in this setting -
Outlook/Outlook Express also do very strange things in this mode, including
messing up HTML emails, and even sometimes printing in black!
This is why I still use Lunar for this type of colouring, plus the fact it
is more intelligent than using Windows high contrast, for example, I set it
to change back to standard colours when on web pages and when using photo
software, and also I don't always want white on black, imagine the Windows
desktop with no photograph on it, this is usually a black screen, if you
inverse this you will get bright white.
Hope this helps some people.
Andrew.
-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Léonie Watson
Sent: 06 December 2007 19:51
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: [6 December 2007 Part IV - Leonie
Against my better judgment, I've taken a look at Jaws 9.0 with
inverse colouring. The results are encouraging. Brian's absolutely right,
it's difficult to accept a half assed answer, but perhaps he could explain
to me why I should be the one to provide that answer?
Regards,
Léonie.
-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Brian Lingard
Sent: 06 December 2007 10:28
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: [6 December 2007 Part IV - Leonie
Ottawa Canada
Dear Dorothy:
While you do raise good points about Leonie on the Jaws-UK list, I fear you
are flogging a dead horse trying to get more of an answer from Leonie.
Your best thing to do is probably to just drop the subject entirely.
Otherwise Leonie and George et al are very likely to consider your further
messages on the topic provocative, argumentative and a personal attack,
getting you booted off of the list.
I know its hard to just accept a half-assed answer, but sometimes its all
you're going to get and prying further is just counter productive.
Take care.
Brian
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