[j-say list] Re: Dragon not accepting commands
- From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:23:08 +0530
Hi Anne,
Knowbrainer is an add-on similar to J-Say but it does not have any screen
reader support. You can read more about it at http://www.knowbrainer.com.
I had explored the posibility of J-Say and knowbrainer working together.
That wont happen since knowbrainer just presses keystrokes to execute
commands which will make things too verbose for screen reader users.
Pranav
-----Original Message-----
From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 7:10 AM
To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [j-say list] Re: Dragon not accepting commands
Interesting, Pranav. what is "Nobrainer"?
At 07:26 PM 2/17/2012, you wrote:
>Hi Ann,
>
>Dragon premium is not supported by J-Say. If you do not need screen reader
>support, then look at knowbrainer that does support dragon premium. For
>J-Say, you do need dragon professional.
>
>
>The thing with dragon professional is that it supports advanced scripting
>commands which are programs. These are what J-Say uses to talk to Jaws and
>control the computer.
>
>Pranav
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>Behalf Of Ann Byrne
>Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 6:45 AM
>To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [j-say list] Re: Dragon not accepting commands
>
>I'm using Office 2010, windows 7, Dragon 11.5 Premium.
>
>I will try November. At 04:55 PM 2/17/2012, you wrote:
> >Ann:
> >
> >I tried "press control n" in Outlook (from the Inbox view). Does
> >not work for me either. The results box displays "press control
> >and" - so it's misunderstanding AND for N.
> >
> >I was able to say "press control November" and it worked perfectly -
> >opened up a new message just fine.
> >
> >I noticed that when in the Inbox View, the check mark on the Dragon
> >Bar for Full Text Control is GRAY, meaning that full control is not
> >active. That is likely why "press control n" does not work.
> >
> >Once I have an email message open, and the Full Text Control check
> >is GREEN, then 'press control n' works, (at least sometimes).
> >
> >It could also be that Dragon is just having a difficult time
> >determining whether I am saying "n" or "and".
> >
> >What version of Word are you using (2010, 2007, 2003, etc)? Also,
> >please remind me what version of Dragon you are using (I forgot if
> >you had mentioned it, and I've since deleted the original message).
> >
> >
> >
> >--Jim
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
> >Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 4:23 PM
> >To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [j-say list] Re: Dragon not accepting commands
> >
> >I'm working in Word, which I can open verbally, and Outlook, which I
> >can open. But I can't "press control n" to begin a new message.
> >At 07:56 AM 2/17/2012, you wrote:
> > >I'm going to respectfully disagree with something Sue said (at least
> > >partially). While Dragon Premium does not allow FULL voice control of
> > >the computer, there are some commands available while working in
> > >documents. Such as "move down one line", "move to end of document",
> > >etc. Also, the "press" commands should work with Premium.
> > >
> > >However, you do need to make sure you correctly say the command.
> > >
> > >Anne - when I re-read your original message, one of the examples you
> > >gave that was being typed instead of processed was 'move down one'.
> > >However, you did not tell it "what" to move down - as in 'move down one
> > >???"
> > >
> > >Try using 'move down one line' or 'move down one paragraph'.
> > >
> > >Also, Anne, what program are you dictating into - Word, DragonPad,
> > >Notepad, something in your web browser?
> > >
> > >It may be that Dragon doesn't support Full Text Control (previously
> > >Select-and-Say) in your application. If that's the case, many of the
> > >basic commands (navigation, press, etc) won't work - regardless of
> > >which mode you are in.
> > >
> > >
> > >--Jim
> > >
> > >
> > >________________________________________
> > >From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] on behalf
> > >of Ann Byrne [annakb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 7:18 AM
> > >To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: [j-say list] Re: Dragon not accepting commands
> > >
> > >Oh, boy! I think it's premium; will check when I get back to the work
> > >computer. Open and close work fine; just not 'press'.
> > >
> > >I did try going into command mode and no difference. But perhaps this
> > >one is solved.
> > >
> > >thanks, everyone, for the suggestions.
> > >
> > >ann
> > >At 03:32 AM 2/17/2012, you wrote:
> > > >A couple of comments here. First, Ann, you say that your commands
> > > >are beeing transcribed into your document. This might seem obvious
> > > >but, are you using Dragon Pro or Dragon Premium? Premium does not
> > > >provide for command and control by voice. Second, if you want to
> > > >close a program, try the command, close program.
> > > >
> > > >Hope that helps.
> > > >
> > > >Sue
> > > >
> > > >beting
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > >On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
> > > >Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:22 PM
> > > >To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Subject: [j-say list] Re: Dragon not accepting commands
> > > >
> > > >It manages words very nicely. To issue a keystroke command I say
>'press'
> > > >right? Like "press alt f4"?
> > > > At 07:16 PM 2/16/2012, you wrote:
> > > > >Is the microphone that you are using for dictation working?
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >[mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Judy Watford
> > > > >Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:36 PM
> > > > >To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >Subject: [j-say list] Re: Dragon not accepting commands
> > > > >
> > > > >I am having the same problem with version 9. I did a j-say repair
> > > > >as instructed and it will take some commands and ignore others.
> > > > >
> > > > >I have used this successfully in the past. I can't figure out what
> > > > >is going on. I hope t and t will be able to improve the traing
> > > > >portion. I was going to create a new profile, but the j-say key
> > > > >hung up half way through the training material. I waited a safe
> > > > >four second interval, but this feature has never worked well for
> > > > >me. Will there be an improvement or has it stayed the same in
> > > > >dragon 11.5. I am considering an upgrade, but I would like to
> > see if the problems have been fixed.
> > > > >
> > > > >I increased my accuracy setting and didn't get a long speech lag
> > > > >and things were a little better.
> > > > >Another problem I am now having is when I start to spell something
> > > > >in the correction box, it just echos the first letter. Yes, I have
> > > > >echo and spell turned on. Sometimes, it will silently finish the
> > > > >word and sometimes it doesn't. I find this irritating because I
> > > > >have to use the
> > > >keyboard.
> > > > >
> > > > >Hope someone on list can help with this.
> > > > >
> > > > >Judy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >[mailto:j-say-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 8:48 PM
> > > > >To: j-say@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > >Subject: [j-say list] Dragon not accepting commands
> > > > >
> > > > >I'm new to speech input, and assume I have something set wrong
> > somewhere.
> > > > >When I dictate, Dragon is happy. When I say 'move down one',
> > > > >Dragon types it into my document. When I say "press control n"
> > > > >it either ignores me or goes ting. How do I explain that I am
> > > > >commanding????
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks,
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