Thanks for all the comments and help on this subject, but the obvious conclusion from this that it's practically impossible to find a really good MP3 player for use with RISC OS, unless you can physically plug it and see what happens there is no way in the world of actually knowing if it will work. I thought this Sony one would work but I was wrong, so I have decided to give up with MP3 players on RISC OS and will use my PC for this task now, shame as I like using !Musicman and !IIDTagEd, as it just isn't practical anymore, i'd love to be proved wrong and be able to use a new MP3 player but it doesn't look like happening. Cheers Matthew -- Message sent from an IYONIX www.iyonix.com Using RISC OS 5 : RISC OS Open Ltd www.riscosopen.co.uk --- To alter your preferences or leave the group, visit //www.freelists.org/list/iyonix-support Other info via //www.freelists.org/webpage/iyonix-support