[isapros] Re: Unix LOB Caching

  • From: "Greg Mulholland" <gmulholland@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:13:23 +1000

You're quicker than me then, I've been trying to delete them! :)

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From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2007 5:49 AM
To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isapros] Re: Unix LOB Caching

I've approved the ones I've seen...

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Moffat
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 10:14 AM
> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isapros] Re: Unix LOB Caching
> 
> Why are my post's regarding this being ignored???
> 
> 
> BWWAAAA!!!!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 1:29 PM
> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isapros] Re: Unix LOB Caching
> 
> I wouldn't have to care if the app were written better.
> 
> This isn't about ISA caching. This is about the firewall client
> updating
> the IE settings and removing my 10.0.0.2 exception to IE caching.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Jason Jones
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 12:14 PM
> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isapros] Re: Unix LOB Caching
> 
> This seems to have got a bit confused...surely you just need the
client
> to bypass ISA for this particular address? If so the stuff from Jim
> should do the trick.
> 
> I don't see why you care about caching if ISA is being bypassed????
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
> Sent: 05 September 2007 17:01
> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isapros] Re: Unix LOB Caching
> 
> Actually there is. I need to prevent ISA from overwriting the changes
I
> make to IE. If I add 10.0.0.2 to the exceptions list in IE. The
> firewall
> client removes it.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 11:46 AM
> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isapros] Re: Unix LOB Caching
> 
> If IE is caching the pages, *nothing* you can do at ISA will prevent
> this.
> if you don't have wpad support here, you should; it really makes
things
> so much easier (and centralized).
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 8:50 AM
> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isapros] Re: Unix LOB Caching
> 
> I haven't implemented wpad at this location. The 10.0.0.x network is
> the
> internal network. My probably is really that IE is caching the pages
> and
> I can't prevent IE from doing that because the firewall client takes
> over. I can setup a wpad if that will solve the problem.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 10:58 AM
> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isapros] Re: Unix LOB Caching
> 
> Where is the 10.0.0.x subnet; internal, external or "side DMZ"?
> Those are two separate problems.
> Disable caching is a simple as building a web caching rule that says
> "don't cache content from this site".
> Configuring IE to treat certain IP ranges as "internal", especially
> when
> IE is depending on the wpad script, is as simple as running the
copylat
> script.
> How the FWC configured IE depends on the FWC options you select at
ISA.
> 
> If IE is pulling a valid wpad script, there is no need to worry about
> how the FWC configures IE, since the data it gets from ISA is correct.
> Do this at the ISA:
> 1. Open up the "Internal" network properties
> 2. Select the "Firewall Client" tab
> 3. Make sure *only* "automatically detect settings" is selected
> 4. Click the big "Apply" button if you changed anything
> 5. Get copylattowebproxy.js from isatools.org
> 6. Run it on the ISA (can be run repeatedly; doesn't do anything
> different)
> 
> Do this at the test client:
> 1. open a cmd window
> 2. 'net stop fwcagent & net start fwcagent' (to force FWC policies
> refresh)
> 3. Open your browser and go to http://wpad/wpad.dat (save it on the
> desktop)
> 4. Open wpad.dat in notepad
> 
> ..does the new wpad contain your selected address ranges?
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 7:33 AM
> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isapros] Re: Unix LOB Caching
> 
> I want to disable caching for traffic destined for 10.0.0.2. I can do
> it
> in IE by adding it to the exception list, but the firewall client
> appears to be auto configuring IE and taking away my manual settings.
> What I would like is to change the autoconfiguration behavior and add
> in
> my 10.0.0.2 address so it will never be cached by IE or ISA.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 10:00 AM
> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isapros] Re: Unix LOB Caching
> 
> What are you trying to solve:
> 1. using ISA for a local connection
> 2. disabling caching at ISA
> ?
> 
> If #1, you can include the "local IPs" in the list with the use of a
> script I wrote.  Go to isatools.org and get copylattowebproxy.js in
the
> ISA 2004 section.  Run this on your ISA 2004 server (not required for
> ISA 2006).
> 
> ISA 200x allows you to disable caching through the use of
> destination-based cache rules (routing rules for ISA 2000).
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 2:11 PM
> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isapros] Unix LOB Caching
> 
> I have a client with a LOB app that I need to exempt from caching.
> Internet Explorer apparently ignores IP address when determining
> whether
> the server is on the local network or not. KB: Internet Explorer Uses
> Proxy Server for Local IP Address Even if the "Bypass Proxy Server for
> Local Addresses" Option Is Turned On
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/262981
> 
> 
> Now, entering in the IP address into the Do not use proxy server for
> address beginning with: box does work but it gets removed
periodically.
> I think the firewall client is doing this. If so, where in ISA can I
> add
> this IP address to the IE configuration it is pushing out?
> 
> Here's where I've tried to configure it:
> 
> Networks\Internal, Properties, Web Proxy tab. I added the address to
> the
> directly access list. Didn't work.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Amy
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