Hi Gerald, Not one of the trace logs seems to contain the PPTP trace. That’s the first thing I have checked. Well, maybe a network trace is the only ‘good’ solution… Thanks, Stefaan From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerald G. Young Sent: dinsdag 12 juni 2007 20:58 To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isapros] Re: PPTP tracing Well, If nothing shows up in the ppp.log, that would be indicative of PPTP not being established. Then there are also the event logs to look through. Have you tried looking through any of the trace logs you can get from ras by enabling tracing for all components? If you haven't, it's worth a peek, if for no other reason than to validate your assumption that nothing helpful will be there. Also, not being able to find something on Google either means different key words need to be used, the information for which you're looking isn't published there (usually means you have to talk directly to vendor), or the lack of an answer indicates a negative answer. You may be asking a question similar to: How can you make Kool Aid without water? The answer really is you can't and water is a requirement. You may need to go back to the server admin and tell them a network trace is required. *shrug* Who knows, though... It's always possible that someone on the list might yet know - waiting is probably still an okay option. Cordially yours, Jerry G. Young II ++ Sent from BlackBerry ++ Application Engineer Platform Engineering and Architecture NTT America, an NTT Communications Company 22451 Shaw Rd. Sterling, VA 20166 Office: 571-434-1319 Fax: 703-333-6749 Email: g.young@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tue Jun 12 14:38:14 2007 Subject: [isapros] Re: PPTP tracing Hi Gerald, I'm just looking for another method but a NetMon trace to easily collect some hard evidence that some sharing/NAT devices breaks PPTP VPN connections. Therefore we have to analyze the PPTP negotiation itself and in particular check out if those sharing/NAT devices properly handle the CALL ID's. In fact, a similar method as the Oakley log for L2TP/IPSec would be great. BTW --- Google doesn't give the answer I'm looking for ;-) Thanks, Stefaan -----Original Message----- From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerald G. Young Sent: dinsdag 12 juni 2007 16:59 To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isapros] Re: PPTP tracing I assumed you were having issues with connectivity and asking for ways to troubleshoot them. What is your objective here? To troubleshoot an issue? Or are you simply asking a yes or no question (i.e., is it possible to trace a pptp negotiation, exposing the call id negotiation natively in Windows using netsh)? If the latter, my guess would be no, but then I'm not sitting in front of a server running RRAS. Try using netsh ras show tracing for a list of components and see if anything related to PPTP is listed. Otherwise, I'm thinking a Google (Ahem, Desktop Live) search is probably justified. http://www.google.com/search?tab=gw <http://www.google.com/search?tab=gw&hl=en&q=netsh%20ras%20set%20tracing%20pptp> &hl=en&q=netsh%20ras%20set%20tracing%20pptp Cordially yours, Jerry G. Young II Application Engineer Platform Engineering and Architecture NTT America, an NTT Communications Company 22451 Shaw Rd. Sterling, VA 20166 Office: 571-434-1319 Fax: 703-333-6749 Email: g.young@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stefaan Pouseele Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:12 AM To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isapros] Re: PPTP tracing Gerald, I do *not* want the PPP trace but the PPTP trace! The PPTP stuff itself is happening *before* the PPP negotiation starts ;-) Best Regards, Stefaan -----Original Message----- From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerald G. Young Sent: dinsdag 12 juni 2007 15:56 To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isapros] Re: PPTP tracing Stefaan, Try the catchall version of that command: netsh ras set tracing * enable Then run your test again. Once complete - and assuming the problem was experienced, disable tracing: netsh ras set tracing * disable Take a look at the log files in %windir%\tracing. You may need to engage the MS RRAS team to further determine any underlying cause of your problem. Based on current posts to microsoft.public.windows.vista.networking_sharing, they seem a pretty active bunch. Specifically, though, I believe the component you're looking for is just ppp. netsh ras set tracing ppp enable/disable After tracing ppp, you should see a ppp.log file in the above mentioned directory. Cordially yours, Jerry G. Young II Application Engineer Platform Engineering and Architecture NTT America, an NTT Communications Company 22451 Shaw Rd. Sterling, VA 20166 Office: 571-434-1319 Fax: 703-333-6749 Email: g.young@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stefaan Pouseele Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:36 AM To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isapros] PPTP tracing Hi, Is there any way to trace the PPTP negotiation itself, particular the Call ID negotiation, without using a Network Monitor on Windows XP, 2003 and Vista? I've looked at the "netsh ras set tracing Component enabled" command, but it's unclear which component should be enabled or if it is possible at all. Thanks, Stefaan