Yeh-yeh-yeh; I know you said you didn't want to install anything, but the WS00 RK http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/downloads/servicepacks/sp4/supportt ools.asp offer a neato utility (dropped in later revs) called pptpclnt and pptpsvr. http://www.tburke.net/info/suptools/topics/pptpping.htm discusses how to use & troubleshoot it. -----Original Message----- From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:06 PM To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isapros] Re: PPTP tracing ..if you can't touch the client, how do you enable PPTP tracing there..? To answer the original question, AFAIK PPTP tracing is only available on the RRAS server itself. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/new_network.mspx lists the network enhancements offered in Vista & WS08, but I don't see PPTP tracing listed specifically... -----Original Message----- From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stefaan Pouseele Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:42 AM To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isapros] Re: PPTP tracing But PPTP tracing on the client *and* the ISA (or RRAS box) could be very useful if you can't touch the client ... Thanks, Stefaan -----Original Message----- From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison Sent: dinsdag 12 juni 2007 20:38 To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isapros] Re: PPTP tracing There is an SSL parser for netmon, but due to <donwannahaftakillya>, we can't ship it publicly (yet?). Even with that, only a network capture can tell you what's happening on either side of a traffic processing point; PPTP tracing only tells you what the local machine sees - admittedly useful... -----Original Message----- From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stefaan Pouseele Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:28 AM To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isapros] Re: PPTP tracing Hi Jim, I like very much Wireshark or NetMon, but it's not always convenient or even possible to install that thing on a users pc to diagnose VPN connection problems through sharing/NAT devices. Nevertheless we have to prove that those sharing/NAT devices or the culprit. Therefore the call for another method to collect some hard evidence ;-) BTW --- why isn't there an SSL/TLS parser in Netmon 3.1? Thanks, Stefaan -----Original Message----- From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison Sent: dinsdag 12 juni 2007 18:49 To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isapros] Re: PPTP tracing Why for you no likee netcaps? NetMon3 parses PPTP quite nicely. -----Original Message----- From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stefaan Pouseele Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 6:36 AM To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isapros] PPTP tracing Hi, Is there any way to trace the PPTP negotiation itself, particular the Call ID negotiation, without using a Network Monitor on Windows XP, 2003 and Vista? I've looked at the "netsh ras set tracing Component enabled" command, but it's unclear which component should be enabled or if it is possible at all. Thanks, Stefaan All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned. All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned. All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned. All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned.