[isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
- From: "Amy Babinchak" <amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 12:49:53 -0500
From what I've seen of MVP's you don't have to be a pro, just enthusiastic.
Besides anyone that thinks they know it all is lying.
Amy
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From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of John T (Lists)
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 5:51 PM
To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
I took lurk although I am far from being a ISA Pro let alone a MVP.
John T
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf
> Of Gerald G. Young
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:22 AM
> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
>
> Well, not entirely private. ;) I lurk and chime in - usually on things
> not really focused on ISA but I'm learning as I read. Besides, there is
> plenty of entertainment that comes across the list *coughanthonycough*
> that keeps me interested in knowing what everyone is up to.
>
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
> > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 11:03 AM
> > To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
> >
> > Guess I don't really care what you call the list or where it resides.
> Just
> > so long as people with a vested interest in ISA can find it and the
> ISA PM
> > and other MS people are also members. It would be nice if Jim could
> catch
> > a break and not be the only guy out there. This list is good but it's
> a
> > pretty private group.
> >
> > Amy Babinchak
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
> > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:29 AM
> > To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
> >
> > If you're going to get them anywhere, it will be over here on this
> list.
> > Even if not, Jim joining up with that one again isn't going to change
> that.
> > If the concern is that "ISA needs a community" then like I said
> before,
> > we've already got one. If it is "ISA MVP's need a community" (like,
> > exclusively) then it looks like you are the only one that thinks that,
> > even
> > among the other ISA MVP's (even the one that you know).
> >
> > To me, the REAL value of a true "community" comes from the bond being
> > interest and passion for the product itself, and not some arbitrary
> 3rd
> > party affiliation (like "MVP"). That's evident in the fate of that
> ISA-
> > MVP
> > list. Hell, it even had other area MVP's in it (like me) but it still
> > sucked.
> >
> > Technically, this list is superior to any other list out there - you
> can
> > still help perpetuate the ISA community, but it looks like the best
> way to
> > do that is to bag the ISA MVP list altogether unless you really think
> you
> > can repair the extensive damage its reputation suffered.
> >
> > t
> >
> >
> > On 12/1/06 6:59 AM, "Amy Babinchak" <amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > spoketh
> > to all:
> >
> > > Yeah but that conference only happens once every 2 years. Where are
> they
> > > the rest of the time?
> > >
> > > Amy Babinchak
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> > > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:50 AM
> > > To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
> > >
> > > Hi Amy,
> > >
> > > OK, got it.
> > >
> > > That's the value of the worldwide MVP conference, which is happening
> in
> > > just about four months. A lot of them show up during the conference
> and
> > > it's nice to see that there are quite a few MVPs in ISA. You get
> face
> > > time with the PG, and I'm really hoping that they'll have some ISA
> 2008
> > > stuff for us this year to mull over.
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > > Site: www.isaserver.org
> > > Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > > MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
> > >> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:44 AM
> > >> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
> > >>
> > >> We're not talking about the list, we just talking about ISA MVP's
> in
> > >> general. I can only name 2 - you and me. Not much of a community.
> > >>
> > >> Amy Babinchak
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> > >> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:26 AM
> > >> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
> > >>
> > >> I ain't on that list no mo'.
> > >>
> > >> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > >> Site: www.isaserver.org
> > >> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> > >> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > >> MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
> > >>> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:19 AM
> > >>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
> > >>>
> > >>> Lessee...
> > >>> There's Amy Babinchak.
> > >>> :-p
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >>> On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
> > >>> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 5:49 AM
> > >>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
> > >>>
> > >>> I don't even know who the ISA MVP's are. Tom's one. I think
> > >> that he's
> > >>> the only one I know.
> > >>>
> > >>> Amy Babinchak
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >>> On Behalf Of Steve Moffat
> > >>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:31 PM
> > >>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
> > >>>
> > >>> In my humble opinion...there are only a handful of people on all
> the
> > >>> lists that I subscribe to that actually deserve the title
> MVP....the
> > >>> rest...all bumblers that I wouldn't give 5 minutes to...
> > >>>
> > >>> Steve
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >>> On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
> > >>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:06 PM
> > >>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
> > >>>
> > >>> Well that's part of the point. The ISA MVP list is supposed to be
> a
> > >>> place where MVP's can interact with the product team. The
> > >> product team
> > >>> has been pretty much silent, with the notable exception of Jim.
> Jim
> > >>> shouldn't be left hanging as the only community guy on the inside.
> > >>> There's really no community is no one at Microsoft is listening
> and
> > >>> participating.
> > >>>
> > >>> Amy Babinchak
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>> [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >>> On Behalf Of Thor (Hammer of God)
> > >>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:28 PM
> > >>> To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>> Subject: [isapros] Re: ISA MVP List
> > >>>
> > >>> Well, that's a good start. But we *already have* an ISA
> > >> community over
> > >>> here, and we're not limited by "presumed NDA" conversations...
> > >>>
> > >>> In my opinion, I've gotten far more value from this list and the
> > >>> existing ISA communities than anything I got from the ISA MVP list
> -
> > >>> that's one of the reasons I left that list (among others).
> > >>>
> > >>> Just my opinion, of course.
> > >>>
> > >>> t
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 11/30/06 11:05 AM, "Amy Babinchak"
> > >> <amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>> spoketh to all:
> > >>>
> > >>>> FYI: Susan has left the ISA MVP list and made me the
> > >> admin. You are
> > >>>> welcome to re-join if you wish. ISA needs a community.
> Communities
> > >>> help
> > >>>> build good products that work for companies deploying them.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Amy Babinchak
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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