[isapros] Re: How many ISA servers?

  • From: "Greg Mulholland" <gmulholland@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:43:09 +1000

Hey Amy

I had to do basically that a few weeks ago myself.. sometimes im amazed at what 
i see, but then again im not..

I'm pushing hard for my sites to go virtual now, 1 because we are running out 
of space, 2 because i want them too :) but i can convince them to buy 2 or 3 
decent servers rather than 10 crappy ones and create the same effect and save 
on UPS costs :)

Greg 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Amy Babinchak 
  To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:10 AM
  Subject: [isapros] Re: How many ISA servers?


  That's an understatement.

   

  Yesterday I performed a Siamese twin operation to separate the Internet from 
the Intranet websites. The Intranet was a subfolder of the Internet and 
completely available on the Internet. In doing so, I created 2 new servers on 
the network, changed server name and IP addresses and did not have to modify 
the firewall at all to be able to allow the public to view the Internet site. 
Next up, DNS separation while proposing the firewall project. I've got some 
really good ammo now.

   

  I'm beginning to remember why I left Enterprise. I hate living with stupid 
decisions made by non-IT staff and dealing with incompetent people around me in 
the department. As far as I can tell all the network engineer knows how to do 
is use Acronis.  

   

  Amy  

   


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  From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
  Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 10:58 AM
  To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [isapros] Re: How many ISA servers?

   

  The deployment scenario is driven by the customer requirements, and you own 
recommendations to increase security over the customer's core requirements.

   

  There's a good chance that their current firewall deployment is suboptimal, 
since an aged Check Point server deployment was probably designed and 
configured for a threat environment very different from what we have today.

   

  Tom

   

  Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
  Site: www.isaserver.org
  Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
  Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
  MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)

   

     


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    From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
    Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:33 AM
    To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [isapros] Re: How many ISA servers?

    Thanks. That's a very confusing calculator. It says 1 single processor 
server, 1 duel processor server, 1 dual core processor server under network 
load balancing and also under caching. So does this mean I need one server or 
one of each? It's very unclear. 

     

    What I'm really looking for is more of a decision tree ending with a 
recommendation for the deployment scenario. Since this is my first deployment 
where I think I need more than 1 ISA server, I'm looking for some validation 
before I make the recommendation to the client.

     

           
         As an edge firewall. 
         
          .
         In a 3-leg configuration. 
         
          .
         With another firewall. 
         
          .
         As an Internal network segment firewall. 
         
          .
         As a Web proxy or caching server. 
         

     

     

     

    Amy Babinchak

     


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    From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Jim Harrison
    Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:26 AM
    To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [isapros] Re: How many ISA servers?

     

    Take a look at the calculator to the right of 
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver. 

    This was created to help you make just those decisions.

     

    From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
    Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 6:24 AM
    To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [isapros] How many ISA servers?

     

    Is there a good planning document that can help me decide how many ISA 
servers to deploy? I've got a large network that I'm working on and I'd like to 
ditch the vintage NT checkpoint box in favor of ISA. I'm thinking that 2 ISA 
servers will be the way to go but I'd like to review my thoughts against 
Microsoft recommendations. Is there such a document?

     

    I found one called: Network Concepts in ISA Server 2006  But all it does is 
list the deployment scenarios doesn't explain how to choose between them. 

     

    Amy Babinchak

     

     

     

     

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