What's really bad is that I've had to help customers recover from similar scenarios created by self-styled "ISA consultants". Granted, the community and market doesn't let them survive for long, but the damage they do to the customer and ISA reputation is immeasurable... -----Original Message----- From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:19 AM To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isapros] Re: Cisco Horror Story Syphco guy sounds pretty typical -- they're trained to buy more Syphco gear, but are clueless regarding what the customer needs are other than that they need to buy more Syphco gear. Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site: www.isaserver.org Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls > -----Original Message----- > From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 12:17 PM > To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [isapros] Cisco Horror Story > > Ok, so I hijacked the thread but you mentioned Cisco...I have > a story to > tell. > > We have a non-client (I call anyone without a signed regular > maintenance > contract with us a non-client) small shop. It's a 4 PC > Peer-Peer network > running 1 app which is supported by the vendor. Which means > they really > have no use for us except when they trash a PC, every 9 > months or so. We > installed this network and app about 4 years ago. > > So the owner is on the golf course and moans that it would be nice to > access his app from job sites. They do a lot of in-home glass work and > when there's a change in the scope of the job it sure would be nice to > change the quote and place the order right then. Ah, his > buddy says...MY > IT department installed this fancy Cisco router so I can > remotely access > the office network. MY IT guy is Cisco certified and he owes > me a favor; > I'll send him over. Not only that but you can use my employee discount > to buy one of these routers for yourself. > > Mr Cisco crawls out of a dark enterprise hole and arrives in a 4 user > peer-peer network with PPOE DSL. (must have been some big favor) He > proceeds to setup the Cisco VPN router. Opps, doesn't support > PPOE. You > need a static IP. Call AT&T. Spend money. Meanwhile, since he's there, > he secures the network by turning off gobs of services which > breaks the > network. Must be AT&T's fault. You know how they are. Couple of days > later, Mr AT&T arrives. Must have decided that the problem > was that the > second NIC was disabled in one of the PC's. He connects the AT&T modem > to it and proceeds to setup Internet Connection Sharing taking the DSL > router out of the loop. Gets 1 PC working. Can't figure out > why the rest > don't work. Must be a networking problem. The Internet works, > call your > IT person. He finally calls us on Friday night 4th of July > weekend. See > you on Monday. Monday my tech spends 1/2 a day out there figuring out > what all of the changes were and putting it all back into the working > order it was in before it was monkeyed with. She also sets up a NO-IP > account, a strong password, forwards a port (using the DSL > router) over > to the PC he wants to access from any job very simply without > having to > mess with setting up VPN everywhere he goes. Voila. > > What should have taken maybe 1/2 hour to give him remote access to his > PC instead caused him 5 days of down time and a Cisco VPN > router not to > mention a 1/2 day of labor from us. It works. Then he says, > since I have > the Cisco router, I may as well use it. If that happens we might get > another 1/2 day of work out of him. :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Jim Harrison > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 11:55 AM > To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [isapros] Re: OT: Exchange 2007 on x86 > > My wife just started her new job (DCAA auditor - she's > STOKED!) and the > IT guy that helped her get set up didn't understand why she said > "..oh.." when they told her that they used Cisco as their firewall. > > ..she's so spoiled.. > :-p > > > -- > ExchangeDefender Message Security: Click below to verify authenticity > http://www.exchangedefender.com/verify.asp?id=l6BI86D7027433&f > rom=amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned.