[ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re: webchaining.

  • From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:36:00 -0600

Hi Mike,
 
Listen here little feller:
 
If the Web Proxy Filter handles the request, then the source IP address
will always be the IP address of the ISA firewall.
 
I'll stand by that until I have a chance to test it, or Jim tells me I'm
wrong :)
 
Tom
 
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
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        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ross
        Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:18 PM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re: webchaining.
        
        
        on my upstream proxy, the before the firewall, its set to Route,
not NAT.
        if it was set to NAT, the upstream proxy's IP was shown.
        so, i was hoping my downstream would show the client IP

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        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
        Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:58 PM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re: webchaining.
        
        
        Yep, that is weird.
         
        Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
        Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> 
        Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
        Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7> 
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                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ross
                Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:40 PM
                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
webchaining.
                
                
                ya know i think its just odd.
                right now my upstream proxy sends the client IP to the
firewall.. 

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                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
                Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:22 PM
                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
webchaining.
                
                
                You can't have it both ways. If you want to use the
local Web proxy, you must accept the source IP address being that of the
downstream ISA firewall. 
                 
                Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
                Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> 
                Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
                Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
<http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7> 
                MVP -- ISA Firewalls

                 


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                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ross
                        Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:18 PM
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
webchaining.
                        
                        
                        i want them to cache locally, but i want one
place to watch the activity 

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                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
                        Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:11 PM
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Re:
webchaining.
                        
                        
                        What's the point of having them use the local
proxy? Why not just configure the clients to connect directly to the
upstream Web proxy and bypass proxy on the destination server? Turn off
Web proxy support on the downstream and away you go.
                         
                        Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
                        Site: www.isaserver.org
<http://www.isaserver.org/> 
                        Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
                        Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
<http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7> 
                        MVP -- ISA Firewalls

                         


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                                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ross
                                Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:06 PM
                                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Re: webchaining.
                                
                                
                                so basically i have to setup something
to tail what's being entered into the MSDE database as the users hit the
web, right?

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                                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
                                Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 1:44 PM
                                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Re: webchaining.
                                
                                
                                Yes, but you won't have Web proxy
chaining. You need a ROUTE Network Rule and no Web proxy services at the
downstream. I.e., no local caching.
                                 
                                Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
                                Site: www.isaserver.org
<http://www.isaserver.org/> 
                                Blog:
http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
                                Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
<http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7> 
                                MVP -- ISA Firewalls

                                 


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                                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ross
                                Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:04 PM
                                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Re: webchaining.
                                
                                
                                any way to have it log the IP address of
the actual client on the upstream ISA? it would make monitoring the
clients so much easier.

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                                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
                                Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:49 AM
                                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Re: webchaining.
                                
                                
                                Hi Mike,
                                 
                                That's expected and what's supposed to
happen.
                                 
                                Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
                                Site: www.isaserver.org
<http://www.isaserver.org/> 
                                Blog:
http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
                                Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
<http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7> 
                                MVP -- ISA Firewalls

                                 


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                                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Ross
                                Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:38 AM
                                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                                Subject: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
webchaining.
                                
                                
                                Another question.

                                When I watch my logs on the upstream
proxy, I see users coming thru with the IP address of the downstream
proxy, not of the client they are on.

                                Thoughts? 

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