RE: [islets] RE: ISA 2004 authentication issue

  • From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:36:16 -0800

You will *never* completely rid yourself of "anonymous" log entries and
you'll only drive yourself to bad girls (like Susan) if you try.

*All* browsers and many other applications make their requests as
anonymous first and only provide authentication if they're asked.

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-----Original Message-----
From: MJ [mailto:mjtech@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 1:34 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: [islets] RE: ISA 2004 authentication issue

http://www.ISAserver.org

did that, and started to prompt again.

I don't know what else will I do to fix this problem, but I am going to
work
with MS Support later and hopefully they will figure out what's going
on.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 4:26 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: [islets] RE: ISA 2004 authentication issue


http://www.ISAserver.org

Yes- require authentication, and have the rule based on a group with
defined
users ;)

t

-----
"I'll see your Llama and up you a Badger."
John T



----- Original Message -----
From: "MJ" <mjtech@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 1:10 PM
Subject: [isalist] RE: [islets] RE: ISA 2004 authentication issue


> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> that's how I exactly did few minutes ago, but I am still seeing
> "unauthenticated users"
>
> do you I need to enable the "Require All Users to Authenticate" again.
> Just
> asking :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 4:06 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 authentication issue
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> Create a "local" ISA group, and add the domain's "Domain Users" group
to
> it.
> Then remove "All Users" from the rule and add only the new group you
> specified.
>
> Give that a shot and let us know...
>
> t
>
> -----
> "I'll see your Llama and up you a Badger."
> John T
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MJ" <mjtech@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 12:46 PM
> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 authentication issue
>
>
>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>>
>> then what group should I selcet?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 3:34 PM
>> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 authentication issue
>>
>>
>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>>
>> Exactly.............All Users is the anonymous group
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: MJ [mailto:mjtech@xxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 4:25 PM
>> To: ISA Mailing List
>> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 authentication issue
>>
>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>>
>> I do have all users selected
>>
>> do you I need to select specific groups or what?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 3:21 PM
>> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 authentication issue
>>
>>
>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>>
>> MJ- is your outbound access rule set to "All Users" or do you have it
>> set to a group containing your domain users?
>>
>> I too require user-based logs, and have "require authentication"
checked
>> (integrated only selected) and have set the "Users" to a group I
created
>> that contains "Domain Users" as the only group that has access.
While
>> this creates several "denied" entries for "anonymous," all users are
>> logged appropriately, and have seamless access.
>>
>> When you/PSS get it sorted out, please do tell us what the problem
>> was...
>> You've got something strange going on...
>>
>> t
>>
>> -----
>> "I'll see your Llama and up you a Badger."
>> John T
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "MJ" <mjtech@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 12:08 PM
>> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 authentication issue
>>
>>
>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>>>
>>> sounds good.
>>>
>>> then please tell me how to fix it, if you say that I don't need then
I
>>
>>> promise you I will turn off that option.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 3:04 PM
>>> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>>> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 authentication issue
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>>>
>>> Yep, but there's a secret registry entry that will fix it ;-)
>>>
>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
>>> Site: www.isaserver.org
>>> Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
>>> **Who is John Galt?**
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ball, Dan [mailto:DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 1:48 PM
>>>> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>>>> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 authentication issue
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>>>>
>>>> As I think about it more, I do remember putting a check mark in the
>>>> "Require all users to authenticate" once.  Shortly afterwards,
after
>>>> a hundred phone calls about people getting login prompts, I had to
>>>> turn it back off.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ball, Dan [mailto:DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 2:34 PM
>>>> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>>>> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 authentication issue
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>>>>
>>>> Okay, NOW I remember that option...
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 11:59 PM
>>>> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>>>> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 authentication issue
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>>>>
>>>> In 2004, you can still configure the the authentication method for
>>>> the web proxy listener.  Go to the properties for the network,
select
>>
>>>> Web Proxy, and then click the "Authentication" button.
>>>>
>>>> This allows you to choose the auth methods supported for your
>> clients.
>>>> This
>>>> is where the OP had to select "require all users to authenticate."
>>>> Just
>>>>
>>>> making sure someone didn't put him in "basic auth" land...
>>>>
>>>> t
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> "I'll see your Llama and up you a Badger."
>>>> John T
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Ball, Dan" <DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 8:32 PM
>>>> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 authentication issue
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>>>>
>>>> It's ISA2004, not 2000, it uses regular groups.  Unless there is a
>>>> setting with that name that completely escapes my memory.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 11:08 PM
>>>> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>>>> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 authentication issue
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
>>>>
>>>> The authentication method wasn't changed to "basic" by chance, was
>> it?
>>>> Still at "Integrated Authentication?"
>>>>
>>>> t
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> "I'll see your Llama and up you a Badger."
>>>> John T
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "MJ" <mjtech@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 7:31 PM
>>>> Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 authentication issue
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > http://www.ISAserver.org
>>>> >
>>>> > I rebooted and didn't fix it.
>>>> > I believe that something was change by some body else while
>>>> > troubleshooting another problem about not being able to hit some
>>>> > web sites.
>>>> > Thanks
>>>> >
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: Ball, Dan [mailto:DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 10:21 PM
>>>> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>>>> > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 authentication issue
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.ISAserver.org
>>>> >
>>>> > Had that happen a couple of times, a reboot usually cleared it.
>>>> > Anything changed?
>>>> >
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: MJ [mailto:mjtech@xxxxxxxxx]
>>>> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:14 PM
>>>> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>>>> > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 authentication issue
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.ISAserver.org
>>>> >
>>>> > ISA is a member server of the root domain,and all users are in
the
>>>> child
>>>> > domain.
>>>> > the funny thing is that this been working for about 2 months with
>>>> > no problems.
>>>> >
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: Ball, Dan [mailto:DBall@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 8:59 PM
>>>> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>>>> > Subject: [isalist] RE: ISA 2004 authentication issue
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.ISAserver.org
>>>> >
>>>> > There can be a lot of different reasons for it, but it
"shouldn't"
>>>> > happen.  Is your ISA server a member of said domain?
>>>> >
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: MJ [mailto:mjtech@xxxxxxxxx]
>>>> > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 8:16 PM
>>>> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
>>>> > Subject: [isalist] ISA 2004 authentication issue
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.ISAserver.org
>>>> >
>>>> > ISA Server 2004, with "Windows Authentication" and "Require
>>>> All Users
>>>> To
>>>> > Authenticate"
>>>> >
>>>> > Now with this ISA shouldn't prompt domain users for a user and a
>>>> > password.
>>>> >
>>>> > The one I have still prompting. Is there a reason for this?
>>>> How can I
>>>> > fix
>>>> > it?
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks
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