Hi Greg, Actually, if they use lower case "o" and "p", then they can use it. I only own "O"pen "P"ort "B"utton. ;-) Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 6:56 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: [isalist] ISAserver.org - How to Make the ISA Firewall as Dumb as a Traditional Stateful Packet Inspection Firewall - Redux http://www.ISAserver.org Jim Maybe also a question like, would you support an "open port" button on the firewall software :) You'd have to ask for clearance from Tom to use that term of course. -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 11:35 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: [isalist] ISAserver.org - How to Make the ISA Firewall as Dumb as a Traditional Stateful Packet Inspection Firewall - Redux http://www.ISAserver.org It'll be the test for the "Iron Chef" :) Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 3:29 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: [isalist] ISAserver.org - How to Make the ISA Firewall as Dumb as a Traditional Stateful Packet Inspection Firewall - Redux http://www.ISAserver.org I think I'll use it for some interview questions... "agree with this doc and walk!" :-) -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 12:27 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: [isalist] ISAserver.org - How to Make the ISA Firewall as Dumb as a Traditional Stateful Packet Inspection Firewall - Redux http://www.ISAserver.org Yep, kids will do the darnedest things, but at least they know they're reducing their overall security posture by doing so, and they can put it on their resume :) -----Original Message----- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 2:24 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: [isalist] ISAserver.org - How to Make the ISA Firewall as Dumb as a Traditional Stateful Packet Inspection Firewall - Redux http://www.ISAserver.org Tom Sadly there most likely be people who will use that article for the reason defined in the title. What 'fur' I don't know :) Greg -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 5:15 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: [isalist] ISAserver.org - How to Make the ISA Firewall as Dumb as a Traditional Stateful Packet Inspection Firewall - Redux http://www.ISAserver.org Sorry, I meant to say "apoplectic" :=) Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls -----Original Message----- From: Ara [mailto:ara@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 12:12 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: [isalist] ISAserver.org - How to Make the ISA Firewall as Dumb as a Traditional Stateful Packet Inspection Firewall - Redux http://www.ISAserver.org ,lol This was a good one... "One last thing, do NOT join the ISA firewall to your Active Directory domain." -----Original Message----- From: ISAserver.org [mailto:info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 10:04 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] ISAserver.org - How to Make the ISA Firewall as Dumb as a Traditional Stateful Packet Inspection Firewall - Redux http://www.ISAserver.org ISAserver.org - RealTime Article Update Hi ISAlist, Title: How to Make the ISA Firewall as Dumb as a Traditional Stateful Packet Inspection Firewall - Redux Author: Thomas Shinder Summary: This article first appeared in the ISAserver.org newsletter a couple of months ago. Its was so popular that I decided to update and enhance it and bring it online on the main ISAserver.org articles site. 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