RE: Windows Update and XP SP2

  • From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 08:38:29 -0800

I can't get into the details (obviously)...
Suffice to say that they're aware of the issue.

  Jim Harrison
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-----Original Message-----
From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 3:58 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows Update and XP SP2

http://www.ISAserver.org

Does this means which of the following:

They don't want to do anything!
They can't do anything!
They do not know what it is that needs to be done!
It is not a problem, it is a feature!
What problem? No problem. Everything is as expected. 

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 3:40 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows Update and XP SP2
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> Correct, but up to now, the WU team isn't producing anything but
noise.
> 
> 
>   Jim Harrison
>   MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
>   http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
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> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 12:39 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows Update and XP SP2
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> You know, the correct fix is for MS to change the behavior of the
> windowsupdate connection to the logged on user, not something else.
> 
> John Tolmachoff
> Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> eServices For You
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 9:22 AM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Cc: 'Support'
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows Update and XP SP2
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > It appears to a problem with the user that Burstek is seeing. Here
is
> the
> > block line from the Burstek log:
> >
> > 2004.11.24;09.55.09;NT AUTHORITY\ANONYMOUS
> > LOGON;v5.windowsupdate.microsoft.com:443
> >
> > So it is seeing the user as
> > "NT AUTHORITY\ANONYMOUS LOGON"
> >
> > It is not seeing that as "anonymous" or "unauthenticated".
> >
> > I created an access policy allow unauthenticated access, but does
not
> work.
> > I created an IP set of the entire LAN subnet, but still does not
work.
> >
> > I keep seeing the same line in the log.
> >
> > In ISA, the rules I have set up are allowing it to connect, so the
> problem
> > is with Burstek:
> >
> > 192.168.100.53      anonymous       Microsoft WU Client/2.0 N
> 2004-11-24
> > 17:55:09    w3proxy SRV6    -       v5.windowsupdate.microsoft.com
> -
> > 443 -       179     2774    SSL-tunnel      TCP     CONNECT -
> -
> > -   407     -       -       -
> > 192.168.100.53      anonymous       Microsoft WU Client/2.0 N
> 2004-11-24
> > 17:55:09    w3proxy SRV6    -       v5.windowsupdate.microsoft.com
> -
> > 443 -       287     552     SSL-tunnel      TCP     CONNECT -
> -
> > -   407     -       -       -
> >
> > I have submitted the problem to Burstek Wednesday morning, but they
> have
> not
> > gotten back to me yet. I also tried to call there about 10:30 AM
> Wednesday,
> > but hung up after being on hold with no response after about 25
> minutes.
> >
> > John Tolmachoff
> > Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> > eServices For You
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John Tolmachoff (Lists)
[mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 4:10 PM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows Update and XP SP2
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > I will be on site at the client tomorrow to test.
> > >
> > > John Tolmachoff
> > > Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> > > eServices For You
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 1:32 PM
> > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows Update and XP SP2
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > >
> > > > I you want to detail the settings you create to make this work,
> maybe
> we
> > > > can get Busrtek to KB it and we can cross-link the ISA and
Burstek
> KBs.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   Jim Harrison
> > > >   MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> > > >   http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
> > > >   http://isatools.org
> > > >   Read the help / books / articles!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: John Tolmachoff (Lists)
> [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:04 AM
> > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows Update and XP SP2
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > >
> > > > DUH!
> > > >
> > > > Yes, that client has Burstek.
> > > >
> > > > I will create a access policy in Burstek for those sites for
> > > > unauthenticated
> > > > and see what happens.
> > > >
> > > > John Tolmachoff
> > > > Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> > > > eServices For You
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:52 AM
> > > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows Update and XP SP2
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you use ANY web proxy plug-ins?
> > > > > I know for a fact that Web Sense and Surf Control prevent this
> from
> > > > > working because the require the use of "ask unauthenticated.."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   Jim Harrison
> > > > >   MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
> > > > >   http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
> > > > >   http://isatools.org
> > > > >   Read the help / books / articles!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: John Tolmachoff (Lists)
> [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:57 AM
> > > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > > Subject: [isalist] Windows Update and XP SP2
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > >
> > > > > I am rolling out new workstations at a client using ISA 2000.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have tried the workarounds in
> > > > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=885819
> > > > > but
> > > > > still can not access.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any one have any new information?
> > > > >
> > > > > John Tolmachoff
> > > > > Engineer/Consultant/Owner
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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