RE: Windows Update and 3rd party web filters

  • From: "Aman Bedi" <gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'[ISAserver.org Discussion List]'" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:19:56 -0400

No worries, 
Take care and have a nice weekend.

Aman


-----Original Message-----
From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:15 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows Update and 3rd party web filters

http://www.ISAserver.org

Sorry, I guess I have had a bad week with way to many problems and no where
near enough resolutions.

Is it bed time yet?

John T
eServices For You


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 2:35 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows Update and 3rd party web filters
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> Hey john ,
> 
> I said that jokingly with no offence.. ( I used smilies )
> I am sorry if that did hurt you.
> 
> Actually we don't host our domain/email (Scanbuy.com) and the spam filter
is
> used by the company hosting it for us.
> 
> I was actually laughing at the spam filter which caught it as spam.
> I in a way agree with you on what you said about baldness and 4u
> 
> And about the porn link .. I things it is taking sex from
mSEXchange.org...
> :)
> 
> And about our product, come on, I just work for this company and the
product
> is not that bad. In fact it is one of the FORTUNE's top 25 breakout
> companies of 2005. :) hope that gives it some weight.
> 
> Download the app from scanzoom.com, its free.. u will def like it ..
> 
> Sorry once again..
> Aman
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:27 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows Update and 3rd party web filters
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> LOL
> 
> Hey Aman, since I am an e-mail administrator deeply involved in the war on
> spam I can professionally tell you without hesitation that your spam
> filtering needs work.
> 
> Saying that some ones domain name hints at spam is a pretty tall charge.
One
> that can cause you a lot of pain.
> How does the phrase "hair loss" = a rule called "Cures Baldness"?
> A domain name using either 4u or a variant of such is in now way an
> indicator of spam or not.
> Maybe Greg or Steve can figure it out, but I fail to see any hint of porn
in
> any URL.
> 
> Oh, BTW, if you say your domain name fast, it sounds like something I
would
> stay away from. And that was before I went to your website to see exactly
> what it is. Gee, it took me about 15 seconds to think of a way to use your
> software/service/offering/whateveritis on a camera phone to create a scam.
> 
> Thanks for playing. Next...
> 
> John T
> eServices For You
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 1:01 PM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows Update and 3rd party web filters
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Hey ,
> >
> > :) ur email got marked as spam :)
> > And your domain name does also hint some kind of spam (got 1.8 points )
> > >From spam filter :
> > ------
> >
> > Content analysis details:   (5.6 points, 4.0 required)
> >
> >  pts rule name              description
> > ---- ----------------------
> > --------------------------------------------------
> >  2.4 HAIR_LOSS              BODY: Cures Baldness
> >  1.8 DOMAIN_4U2             BODY: Domain name containing a "4u" variant
> >  1.4 PORN_URL_SEX           URI: URL uses words/phrases which indicate
> porn
> > (sex)
> > -----------
> >
> > Scanbuy Inc
> > Aman Bedi | Systems/Network Administrator (MCP, MCSD, MCSA 2000, MCSA
> 2003)
> > 54 West 39th Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY 10018 | Fax +1(212)
202-4318
> |
> > Phone +1(212) 278-0178 ext 234 | www.scanbuy.com
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: JosephK [mailto:josephk@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 3:44 PM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows Update and 3rd party web filters
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Cool, that's really great news!  MS typically doesn't release any more
> > service packs and updates beyond the number "6".  So, that should help
> > out the problem of future updates.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 12:54 AM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] Windows Update and 3rd party web filters
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > After much work, digging, testing frustrations, hair loss, sleep-ness
> > nights, sleeping in the dog house, (no wait, some of those had to be
> > caused
> > by something else,) I am happy to announce that Windows update is now
> > working through ISA Server 2000 on Windows 2003 Server with Burstek
> > WebFilter.
> >
> > Sort of.
> >
> > After help from the Honorable Jim and e-mails back and forth with
> > Burstek
> > over the last 6 months, it is now working, but not in the way expected.
> >
> > Microsoft has apparently without much fanfare released V6 of Windows
> > Update
> > to the public for use on Windows 2000, Windows XP and Windows 2003. I
> > found
> > this quite by accident on Wednesday while at a client setting up a new
> > Dell
> > XP Pro computer. When I ran updates via the Windows Updates line on the
> > Start Menu, I was taken to a different looking site and different URL. I
> > double and triple checked it to make sure it was not some sort of spy
> > ware.
> >
> > So today while at my client that is using ISA server 2000 and Burstek
> > WebFilter I tried it out on a couple of their workstations. When I hit
> > the
> > link to Windows Update on the Start Menu, I was taken to the V5 site. I
> > then
> > typed in update.microsoft.com and was taken to the V6 site. As soon as I
> > went to the new site once, from that point on using the Windows Update
> > link
> > on the Start Menu takes you directly there. You have to install both MSI
> > 3.1
> > and the new Windows Update software. MSI 3.1 requires a reboot and must
> > be
> > installed before proceeding on the new site.
> >
> > So, I restart, install the new update software, and chose custom install
> > to
> > scan for updates.
> >
> > (Drum roll please)
> >
> > It worked.
> >
> > I did not have time to review all the logs to see exactly what they
> > changed,
> > but I am going to assume that they are now using the credentials of the
> > logged on user for authentication through ISA.
> >
> > John T
> > eServices For You
> >
> >
> >
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