RE: Windows 98 clients behind ISA 2004 web proxy?
- From: "Amy Babinchak" <amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 20:04:35 -0500
Thank goodness I've never read Voltaire then.
I stand corrected.
Amy
-----Original Message-----
From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 7:29 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows 98 clients behind ISA 2004 web proxy?
http://www.ISAserver.org
It's not cheating when it's a true reference! That is from Voltaire's
"Candide."
t
----- Original Message -----
From: "Amy Babinchak" <amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:14 PM
Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows 98 clients behind ISA 2004 web proxy?
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Hyphens are cheating.
Tom 1
Thor 0
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 7:04 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows 98 clients behind ISA 2004 web proxy?
http://www.ISAserver.org
Oh no! You got the most syllables!
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 5:18 PM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows 98 clients behind ISA 2004 web proxy?
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> Only in the world of metaphysico-theologo-cosmolonigology
> would something
> like that make sense ;)
>
> t
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:50 PM
> Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows 98 clients behind ISA 2004 web proxy?
>
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
>
> Wait a minute. If you're right, then I'm right. So, using deductive
> logic it demonstrates that I was right and you were only agreeing with
> me.
>
> So, you can have have both t-shirts and keep the monkeys. :))
>
> WORD.
>
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> Site: www.isaserver.org
> Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> **Who is John Galt?**
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:47 PM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows 98 clients behind ISA 2004 web proxy?
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> >
> > ROFL!!!
> >
> > I don't know which has been more fun: being right in the
> > first place, or
> > dragging you back and forth between the "I'm sending you a
> > shirt cause you
> > won" and the "ass monkey" lines :-ppppp
> >
> > PL0nK!
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:24 PM
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows 98 clients behind ISA 2004 web proxy?
> >
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > It wasn't a cooked up capture, it's the one that I had on
> hand, so it
> > was real, its just that that the SMTP relay was on the ISA
> > firewall and
> > the ISA firewall was a domain member, and you got me all
> confused with
> > the Kerberos authentication protocol mumbo jumbo and you
> said Kerberos
> > and hooked that into GSSAPI and so I think you're doing a
> > Clinton on me
> > here so I'm going to have to impeach and disabar you and make stop
> > dragging sawbucks through trailer parks. The auth frames
> look exactly
> > the same.
> >
> > So, for obfuscating my point by introducing Kerberos where it
> > wasn't an
> > issue, and rising up again the non-issue of clear text, and
> for making
> > it seem like we disagree when we actually agree regarding the ATRN
> > issue, I'm going to have to not only take back the "I pR0neD
> > Greggo and
> > I'll I got was this T-shirt" t-shirt, I'm also going to
> give you back
> > your butt munch, and call you as ass monkey on top of it.
> >
> > And the Panglossian solution is also the Liebnizian one,
> making it the
> > best of all possible solutions.
> >
> > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > Site: www.isaserver.org
> > Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
> > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > **Who is John Galt?**
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:49 PM
> > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows 98 clients behind ISA 2004
> web proxy?
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > Well, that's not fair at all. I wasn't disputing that Auth
> > > could not use
> > > NTLM- Auth, by RFC 2554, can use really whatever it wants as
> > > long as both
> > > ends support it. In the absence of saying you were using
> > > NTLM, one would
> > > logically base a response on the default, base64 clear text
> > encoding.
> > >
> > > Regardless, the "clear text" aspect of the ATRN solution is
> > > the least of the
> > > worries. So I think I still get a the shirt. Besides, correctly
> > > ascertaining that you used a "cooked" capture last night
> > > should be more than
> > > enough. I'll take "butt munch." Send a shirt ;)
> > >
> > > And I think Jim owes me one too, but he never responded to
> > > the last spank I
> > > gave him ;)
> > >
> > > t
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:47 PM
> > > Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows 98 clients behind ISA 2004
> web proxy?
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > >
> > > Hi Tim,
> > >
> > > Cool. I'll have to pull those Win95 CDs out of the museum.
> > >
> > > BTW -- I think I'm going to have to revoke your T-shirt. I
> > repro'd the
> > > config using the Internal to DMZ SMTP outbound connection from the
> > > Exchange Server to the IIS 6 box in the DMZ, and NTLM does
> > > work, and the
> > > SMTP relay is not a domain member. However, I might send you a "I
> > > pL0NkEd Greg and all I got was this lousy T-shirt" since
> > I'm not jiggy
> > > on exactly what GSSAPI does and how it works with NTLM
> > authentication.
> > >
> > > However, I will take back calling you a butt munch, since
> I'm in the
> > > Christmas spirit.
> > >
> > > GMT
> > >
> > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > > Site: www.isaserver.org
> > > Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
> > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > > **Who is John Galt?**
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:22 PM
> > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows 98 clients behind ISA 2004
> > web proxy?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > >
> > > > There is an active directory connector client app you can use
> > > > to join the
> > > > domain, use NTLMv2, etc.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 12:14 PM
> > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows 98 clients behind ISA 2004
> > web proxy?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > >
> > > > Hey boys,
> > > >
> > > > Does that make the 9x client a domain member? I have to
> > admit that I
> > > > haven't touched a 9x box since about 1999/2000.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > > > Site: www.isaserver.org
> > > > Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/
> > > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > > > **Who is John Galt?**
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Brian Boyes [mailto:BrianB@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:10 PM
> > > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: Windows 98 clients behind ISA 2004
> > > web proxy?
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > Can anyone confirm that a Windows 98 domain member and
> > > user client
> > > > > > will successfully authenticate behind an ISA 2004 web
> > > > proxy without
> > > > > > having to type in user credentials for each IE window?
> > > > >
> > > > > Danny, we are running that particular setup here and it
> > has worked
> > > > > successfully so far. In our situation, I have installed the
> > > > > AD client on the
> > > > > 9x stations and the MSP client from MSProxy 2.0. I have been
> > > > > told (but not
> > > > > tested) the ISA firewall client will work as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > Before anyone asks, we are running these 9x stations because
> > > > > they have some
> > > > > legacy software on them that won't work in 2K or XP.
> > > > >
> > > > > Brian
> > > > >
> > > > >
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