Wheres mine punk...... Its almost 9.... (am) Greg Mulholland Krystaltek Solutions greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.krystaltek.com -----Original Message----- From: Thor [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 7:52 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: What's wrong with this page? http://www.ISAserver.org Um, wow! I come back from having a beer in the sun, and have that little jewel waiting for me! You are far too kind, sir... T ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:03 PM Subject: [isalist] RE: What's wrong with this page? > http://www.ISAserver.org > > Thor is one of those folks who chooses to use his prodigous powers for good. > He reminds me of a guy in my last team; "scary-smart"... > > You put him and the Litchfields in the same bar and class is in session... > > > Jim Harrison > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ > http://isatools.org > Read the help / books / articles! > > > On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 13:06:06 -0700 > "John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)" <johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > http://www.ISAserver.org > > Not completely. ;-)> > > (Just Kidding) > > John Tolmachoff > Engineer/Consultant/Owner > eServices For You > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Thor [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:51 PM > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > Subject: [isalist] RE: What's wrong with this page? > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > Hopefully I didn't come off as a *complete* jerk about that ;) > > > > t > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Amy Babinchak" <amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:20 PM > > Subject: [isalist] RE: What's wrong with this page? > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > Thor waves his mighty hammer. I'm more the nurturing type. I think of it > > as nurturing the small business network and have written articles > > referring to it that way. I start by fixing a few things that no one > > else has been able to fix for them. Now, they trust me. Next, we talk > > about their wish list. To implement the wish list you are going to need > > X hardware and X software. I don't work with pirated software so if you > > want to do business with me the first thing you have to do is get legal. > > Getting legal usually means new versions of the software, which usually > > means new hardware to run it on. Where's the backup of your data? What > > if that machine dies? Have you ever had a computer die? Yes? This gets > > things rolling in the right direction. It's a slow moving ball at first > > but it picks up speed. > > > > Amy > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Thor [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 11:03 AM > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > Subject: [isalist] RE: What's wrong with this page? > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > > > I tend to take a hard line with my clients... I just tell them that > > there is > > a right way and a wrong way to do things, and that if they want to do it > > the > > wrong way, then I tell them to get someone else to do it. I used to > > try > > the "I can't be responsible for what happens" line, but if they are my > > client, I am responsible. It is easier to walk than to have to deal > > with > > other people's screw ups. > > > > Also, even when they cry poor mouth loudly, taking them for a ride and > > showing them that I can access all their accounting data (indeed, *all* > > other data, too) from my truck while parked behind a coffee shop tends > > to > > open up their eyes a bit. Normally, they say- "The guy who set this up > > was > > really good, and he said it was all perfectly secure." And I say, "Not > > withstanding the expertise of the technician or the presumed security > > posture of your network, I *am* sitting in a shell on your server as > > admin. > > See that? That's your payroll data." > > > > That always helps :) > > > > T > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > > ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp > > ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: > > World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com > > Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com > > No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org > > Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ > > Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ > > Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: > > thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > > ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp > > ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: > > World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com > > Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com > > No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org > > Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ > > Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ > > Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: > > johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp > ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ > ------------------------------------------------------ > Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: > World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com > Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com > No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org > Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ > Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ > Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com > ------------------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > > ------------------------------------------------------ > List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp > ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ > ------------------------------------------------------ > Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: > World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com > Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com > No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org > Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ > Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ > Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com > ------------------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > > ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist