RE: What's wrong with this page?

  • From: "Thor" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 14:51:55 -0700

Um, wow!  I come back from having a beer in the sun, and have that little
jewel waiting for me!

You are far too kind, sir...

T

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:03 PM
Subject: [isalist] RE: What's wrong with this page?


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> Thor is one of those folks who chooses to use his prodigous powers for
good.
> He reminds me of a guy in my last team; "scary-smart"...
>
> You put him and the Litchfields in the same bar and class is in session...
>
>
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> On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 13:06:06 -0700
>  "John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)" <johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> Not completely. ;-)>
>
> (Just Kidding)
>
> John Tolmachoff
> Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> eServices For You
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thor [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:51 PM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: What's wrong with this page?
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> > Hopefully I didn't come off as a *complete* jerk about that ;)
> >
> > t
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Amy Babinchak" <amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:20 PM
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: What's wrong with this page?
> >
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
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> > Thor waves his mighty hammer. I'm more the nurturing type. I think of it
> > as nurturing the small business network and have written articles
> > referring to it that way. I start by fixing a few things that no one
> > else has been able to fix for them. Now, they trust me. Next, we talk
> > about their wish list. To implement the wish list you are going to need
> > X hardware and X software. I don't work with pirated software so if you
> > want to do business with me the first thing you have to do is get legal.
> > Getting legal usually means new versions of the software, which usually
> > means new hardware to run it on. Where's the backup of your data? What
> > if that machine dies? Have you ever had a computer die? Yes? This gets
> > things rolling in the right direction. It's a slow moving ball at first
> > but it picks up speed.
> >
> > Amy
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thor [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 11:03 AM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] RE: What's wrong with this page?
> >
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> >
> >
> > I tend to take a hard line with my clients... I just tell them that
> > there is
> > a right way and a wrong way to do things, and that if they want to do it
> > the
> > wrong way, then I tell them to get someone else to do it.   I used to
> > try
> > the "I can't be responsible for what happens" line, but if they are my
> > client, I am responsible.  It is easier to walk than to have to deal
> > with
> > other people's screw ups.
> >
> > Also, even when they cry poor mouth loudly, taking them for a ride and
> > showing them that I can access all their accounting data (indeed, *all*
> > other data, too) from my truck while parked behind a coffee shop tends
> > to
> > open up their eyes a bit.  Normally, they say- "The guy who set this up
> > was
> > really good, and he said it was all perfectly secure."  And I say, "Not
> > withstanding the expertise of the technician or the presumed security
> > posture of your network, I *am* sitting in a shell on your server as
> > admin.
> > See that?  That's your payroll data."
> >
> > That always helps :)
> >
> > T
> >
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