RE: What's wrong with this page?

  • From: Jim Harrison <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 14:03:03 -0700

Thor is one of those folks who chooses to use his prodigous powers for good.
He reminds me of a guy in my last team; "scary-smart"...

You put him and the Litchfields in the same bar and class is in session...


  Jim Harrison
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On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 13:06:06 -0700
 "John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)" <johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
http://www.ISAserver.org

Not completely. ;-)>

(Just Kidding)

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thor [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:51 PM
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> Hopefully I didn't come off as a *complete* jerk about that ;)
> 
> t
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Amy Babinchak" <amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:20 PM
> Subject: [isalist] RE: What's wrong with this page?
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> Thor waves his mighty hammer. I'm more the nurturing type. I think of it
> as nurturing the small business network and have written articles
> referring to it that way. I start by fixing a few things that no one
> else has been able to fix for them. Now, they trust me. Next, we talk
> about their wish list. To implement the wish list you are going to need
> X hardware and X software. I don't work with pirated software so if you
> want to do business with me the first thing you have to do is get legal.
> Getting legal usually means new versions of the software, which usually
> means new hardware to run it on. Where's the backup of your data? What
> if that machine dies? Have you ever had a computer die? Yes? This gets
> things rolling in the right direction. It's a slow moving ball at first
> but it picks up speed.
> 
> Amy
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thor [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 11:03 AM
> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> Subject: [isalist] RE: What's wrong with this page?
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> 
> I tend to take a hard line with my clients... I just tell them that
> there is
> a right way and a wrong way to do things, and that if they want to do it
> the
> wrong way, then I tell them to get someone else to do it.   I used to
> try
> the "I can't be responsible for what happens" line, but if they are my
> client, I am responsible.  It is easier to walk than to have to deal
> with
> other people's screw ups.
> 
> Also, even when they cry poor mouth loudly, taking them for a ride and
> showing them that I can access all their accounting data (indeed, *all*
> other data, too) from my truck while parked behind a coffee shop tends
> to
> open up their eyes a bit.  Normally, they say- "The guy who set this up
> was
> really good, and he said it was all perfectly secure."  And I say, "Not
> withstanding the expertise of the technician or the presumed security
> posture of your network, I *am* sitting in a shell on your server as
> admin.
> See that?  That's your payroll data."
> 
> That always helps :)
> 
> T
> 
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