RE: What's wrong with this page?
- From: "Thor" <thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 12:51:03 -0700
Hopefully I didn't come off as a *complete* jerk about that ;)
t
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From: "Amy Babinchak" <amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:20 PM
Subject: [isalist] RE: What's wrong with this page?
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Thor waves his mighty hammer. I'm more the nurturing type. I think of it
as nurturing the small business network and have written articles
referring to it that way. I start by fixing a few things that no one
else has been able to fix for them. Now, they trust me. Next, we talk
about their wish list. To implement the wish list you are going to need
X hardware and X software. I don't work with pirated software so if you
want to do business with me the first thing you have to do is get legal.
Getting legal usually means new versions of the software, which usually
means new hardware to run it on. Where's the backup of your data? What
if that machine dies? Have you ever had a computer die? Yes? This gets
things rolling in the right direction. It's a slow moving ball at first
but it picks up speed.
Amy
-----Original Message-----
From: Thor [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 11:03 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: What's wrong with this page?
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I tend to take a hard line with my clients... I just tell them that
there is
a right way and a wrong way to do things, and that if they want to do it
the
wrong way, then I tell them to get someone else to do it. I used to
try
the "I can't be responsible for what happens" line, but if they are my
client, I am responsible. It is easier to walk than to have to deal
with
other people's screw ups.
Also, even when they cry poor mouth loudly, taking them for a ride and
showing them that I can access all their accounting data (indeed, *all*
other data, too) from my truck while parked behind a coffee shop tends
to
open up their eyes a bit. Normally, they say- "The guy who set this up
was
really good, and he said it was all perfectly secure." And I say, "Not
withstanding the expertise of the technician or the presumed security
posture of your network, I *am* sitting in a shell on your server as
admin.
See that? That's your payroll data."
That always helps :)
T
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