RE: What's wrong with this page?
- From: Jim Harrison <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 06:58:16 -0700
Well put!
Unfortunately, this scenario isn't limited to Joe's Landscaping Service. I've
seen quite a few "big companies" that operate their "IT" processes in much teh
same way, except they use CDW as their "Best Buy", only because they have more
money than Joe...
Jim Harrison
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On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 07:37:49 -0400
"Amy Babinchak" <amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Tom, you know by now how I feel about this...but you brought out the
soap box, so here goes...Only if the ISA appliances come in very near
$500. Otherwise, most small businesses are going to go back to handing
out passwords to ex-cons as they leave the pen. (I mean using Norton
Internet Security or nothing at all.) Eliminating ISA from SBS
integration may make a few businesses more secure but it will leave most
of them up a creek without a paddle. If some of my clients knew that SBS
was available at a lower cost with ISA they would have insisted on
buying it that way because they went to Best Buy and saw that they have
firewalls for $59 and it checks for viruses too! Now once they've been
my client for a while they tend to go with what ever I recommend but new
small biz clients are a hard sell. I'm out here trying to convert the
masses let's not make it more difficult than it already is.
No argument from me that it would be more secure on separate hardware
but I want to see you sell it to Joe's Landscape Service, 12 user
network. Now Joe's nephew is pretty good with computers, he's in
college. He's the one that set up what they have now. Right now they
have Yahoo DSL with a built-in firewall, 1 Windows 95 computer, 2
Windows 98, 6 Windows 98SE, 2 Windows ME, and 1 new XP Home. If their
Nephew can't get what they need from school, then they buy all of their
computer stuff at Best Buy or if they don't have it they can order from
Staples. They run Office 97 Quickbooks Pro 2000, and an Access 97
database. They have no domain name, no website. They have no software
disks. They have no backup.
Joe calls you because he's tired of these slow computers and wants a
couple of new ones. Also, his nephew came in and installed Office 2003
on some of the machines but now their Access database doesn't work so
when you fix that he wants you to put that new office on all the
computers. His nephew has the CD for it. (burned copy from school) They
tried to get the DSL to work on all the computers but SBC Yahoo DSL says
that it can only work on one computer at a time, but they know that
other bigger businesses have DSL that works on all computers so they
know that DSL support is lying about that; they want Internet on all the
computers. They think they have a virus again because the computer that
runs Quickbooks keeps hanging and they have to reboot it 3 times a day.
Over the winter they went to a landscape show and got a domain name of
joeslandscape.com so they want to start using email. He heard that you
can work from home using XP, so that's what the new XP machine is for,
so set it up for me. We'll probably want to have more people work from
home once we get this one working. I know my wife wants to use
Quickbooks at home and my brother's wife will want to check her email
from home. I bought some palm pilots off eBay for the crew leaders that
I want to all use the same address book. Send me a quote.
This is your starting point with Joe. How long will it take you to get
him to buy two servers?
Amy
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 10:58 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: What's wrong with this page?
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Hi Amy,
Wait until the ISA firewall appliances come out. You'll never go back to
putting your purse on the front-lawn before you go to bed at night (I
mean, putting DC and Exchange Server on the firewall) :-)
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 8:57 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: What's wrong with this page?
http://www.ISAserver.org
Sorry guys, I'm an SBS person. ISA 2004 isn't available as far as I'm
concerned.
Amy
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