Re: Web Listeners

  • From: "Aman Bedi" <gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'[ISAserver.org Discussion List]'" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:28:30 -0400

Thanks Tom, 

But some machines have admin rights. I want to force them to use firewall (
so that they can authenticate and I can set rules based on that like for web
sites )
If they uninstall Firewall client, they will be proxy clients or secureNAT
clients and I wont be able to restrict their access to Websites.

What is the best config for clients so that they always authenticate and I
control their access. ??

In ISA 2004, "firewall client credentials are forwarded to the web proxy
service", so I think the best option is to configure clients are firewall
clients, disable Proxy on the internal network , and remove anonymous access
rules to prevent SecureNAT connections. This way I force Firewall Clients.

What do u suggest, my main aim is to "config for clients so that they always
authenticate and I control their access."


Thanks

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-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:16 AM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] Re: Web Listeners

http://www.ISAserver.org

Hi Aman,

My recommended setup is to install the Firewall client on all Windows
client machines and configure all Web browsers as Web Proxy clients. Do
not install the Firewall client on servers, and make the Servers Web
Proxy clients depending on how you manage them. I would make them Web
Proxy clients "just in case", as you can force authentication for any
user who 'happens' to log onto the server, provides an account based
audit trail. 

HTH,
Tom 

-----Original Message-----
From: Aman Bedi [mailto:gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 2:43 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] Re: Web Listeners

http://www.ISAserver.org

Cool,

Thanks Jim 

Now I know how it works for firewall clients. ;)

Thanks 

About the 2nd part of question addressed to Tom, everyone else is also
requested to comment 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 3:28 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] Re: Web Listeners

http://www.ISAserver.org

Read this:
http://isaserver.org/tutorials/You_Need_to_Create_a_Split_DNS.html

There's no gain to using an external listener to reach an internal
resource...

  Jim Harrison
  MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG
  http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/
  http://isatools.org
  Read the help / books / articles!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aman Bedi" <gurkirpal.bedi@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 12:07
Subject: [isalist] Web Listeners


http://www.ISAserver.org

Hi everyone.

 

I have published 2 webservers on our internal domain.

 

When someone accesses the sites from outside they work fine.

>From internal network, I can access the sites thru local ip, but
doesn't
work thru website name or public ip . (securenat clients)

 

It works fine for Firewall clients . 

Any ides ?

 

ALSO 

 

tom, 

whish one is better, to force a client to be firewall client or to force
them to be proxy client?

i read in ISA 2004 "firewall client credentials are forwarded to the web
proxy service".

This is unlike ISA 2000 .right ?

that means if i force users to be firewall clients only, then i can have
rules based on user credentials ...( which was not possible is isa 2000,
as
u said in ur article that to do so we should force clients to be proxy
clients)

please clarify this point.

Thanks

 

 

 

 



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