[isalist] Re: Watchguard?
- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:13:34 -0500
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De nada, senor Kettle :)
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor
> (Hammer of God)
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 9:11 AM
> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isalist] Re: Watchguard?
>
> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>
> Rofl.... Thanks, Mr. Pot ;)
>
> t
>
>
> On 6/23/06 5:49 AM, "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> spoketh to
> all:
>
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >
> > Don't be hatin'
> > ;)
> >
> > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > Site: www.isaserver.org
> > Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor
> >> (Hammer of God)
> >> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 2:15 AM
> >> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [isalist] Re: Watchguard?
> >>
> >> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >>
> >>
> >> Doesn't matter- the SBS people apparently don't know the
> >> difference. Oops,
> >> there I go again...
> >>
> >> t
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/22/06 7:23 PM, "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> spoketh to
> >> all:
> >>
> >>> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >>>
> >>> Egoist is OK, egotist is another story ;)
> >>>
> >>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> >>> Site: www.isaserver.org
> >>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> >>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> >>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor
> >>>> (Hammer of God)
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 9:17 PM
> >>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Watchguard?
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >>>>
> >>>> I'd say something about how my bandwidth is not being
> >> limited, but I'd
> >>>> really hate to be labeled an "egoist."
> >>>>
> >>>> t
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 6/22/06 7:08 PM, "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> spoketh to
> >>>> all:
> >>>>
> >>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Amy,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What if you change the MTU settings on the clients?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tom
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> >>>>> Site: www.isaserver.org
> >>>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> >>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> >>>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amy
> Babinchak
> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 9:03 PM
> >>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Watchguard?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
> >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The only problem with NetGear that I've noticed is that they
> >>>>>> reduce your
> >>>>>> bandwidth. Keep an eye on the processing power.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Amy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>>>>> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 8:14 PM
> >>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Watchguard?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
> >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Dan,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Maybe not that low, but if you're looking for good
> >>>> pricing, a Dlink or
> >>>>>> the Netgear that Tim referred to is more than enough. No
> >>>>>> reason to pay a
> >>>>>> premium for "hardware" firewall names.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What is the primary deployment scenario? Just outbound
> access and
> >>>>>> protection from the external bad guys?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> BTW -- Dlink has this which isn't too bad:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?edc=888706
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And much better priced than a Watchguard. Oh, it runs
> >>>> Check Point ;)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you need multiple WAN interface support:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=273
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> BTW -- I'm not a Dlink reseller or anything, I just
> have had good
> >>>>>> experience with these devices. I wouldn't use them for
> corporate
> >>>>>> security, but for the scenario I imagine you're working
> >> with, these
> >>>>>> types of devices are good enough.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Tom
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> >>>>>> Site: www.isaserver.org
> >>>>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> >>>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> >>>>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ball, Dan
> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 3:51 PM
> >>>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Watchguard?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
> >>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> He was also mentioning that he wanted to connect to two
> >>>>>> ISPs with that
> >>>>>>> box, which is why he singled out that model. This is for
> >>>>>> an apartment
> >>>>>>> building, so it would get light to medium usage. He's trying
> >>>>>>> to replace
> >>>>>>> a Cisco 1800 that he could never get working right (no
> >> surprise).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I've been trying to talk him into a full-fledge network
> >>>>>> merging all of
> >>>>>>> his buildings, he's a bit hesitant to make the move though...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So, you're ranking the Watchguard down there in the gutter
> >>>>>>> with the PIX?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>>>>>> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 3:21 PM
> >>>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Watchguard?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
> >>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Dan,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> For people going on the cheap so that they don't want to
> >>>>>> invest in an
> >>>>>>> ISA or Check Point, then a Dlink works fine for them:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=486 (99 bucks)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you need a remote access VPN server, you can couple it
> >>>> up with a
> >>>>>>> unihomed Windows VPN server located behind the device and
> >>>>>>> "port forward"
> >>>>>>> the connections.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It ain't no ISA firewall, but for those going on the low end,
> >>>>>>> it's a lot
> >>>>>>> smarter than going with Watchguard or PIX.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> HTH,
> >>>>>>> Tom
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> >>>>>>> Site: www.isaserver.org
> >>>>>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> >>>>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> >>>>>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ball, Dan
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 2:07 PM
> >>>>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Watchguard?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Does anyone have input on a Watchguard Firebox? I had
> >>>>>>> someone ask me
> >>>>>>>> this afternoon about putting one in for their business, and
> >>>>>>>> due to their
> >>>>>>>> size I couldn't justify recommending an ISA server for him...
> >>>>>>>>
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