[isalist] Re: Watchguard?

  • From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 07:49:11 -0500

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Don't be hatin'
;)

Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor 
> (Hammer of God)
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 2:15 AM
> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isalist] Re: Watchguard?
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>   
> 
> Doesn't matter- the SBS people apparently don't know the 
> difference. Oops,
> there I go again...
> 
> t
> 
> 
> On 6/22/06 7:23 PM, "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
> spoketh to
> all:
> 
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
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> > 
> > Egoist is OK, egotist is another story ;)
> > 
> > Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> > Site: www.isaserver.org
> > Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> > MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor
> >> (Hammer of God)
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 9:17 PM
> >> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [isalist] Re: Watchguard?
> >> 
> >> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >>   
> >> I'd say something about how my bandwidth is not being 
> limited, but I'd
> >> really hate to be labeled an "egoist."
> >> 
> >> t
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 6/22/06 7:08 PM, "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> spoketh to
> >> all:
> >> 
> >>> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >>> 
> >>> Hi Amy,
> >>> 
> >>> What if you change the MTU settings on the clients?
> >>> 
> >>> Tom
> >>> 
> >>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> >>> Site: www.isaserver.org
> >>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> >>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> >>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> >>> 
> >>>  
> >>> 
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 9:03 PM
> >>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Watchguard?
> >>>> 
> >>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >>>>   
> >>>> The only problem with NetGear that I've noticed is that they
> >>>> reduce your
> >>>> bandwidth. Keep an eye on the processing power.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Amy
> >>>> 
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>>> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 8:14 PM
> >>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Watchguard?
> >>>> 
> >>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >>>>   
> >>>> Hi Dan,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Maybe not that low, but if you're looking for good
> >> pricing, a Dlink or
> >>>> the Netgear that Tim referred to is more than enough. No
> >>>> reason to pay a
> >>>> premium for "hardware" firewall names.
> >>>> 
> >>>> What is the primary deployment scenario? Just outbound access and
> >>>> protection from the external bad guys?
> >>>> 
> >>>> BTW -- Dlink has this which isn't too bad:
> >>>> 
> >>>> http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?edc=888706
> >>>> 
> >>>> And much better priced than a Watchguard. Oh, it runs
> >> Check Point ;)
> >>>> 
> >>>> If you need multiple WAN interface support:
> >>>> 
> >>>> http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=273
> >>>> 
> >>>> BTW -- I'm not a Dlink reseller or anything, I just have had good
> >>>> experience with these devices. I wouldn't use them for corporate
> >>>> security, but for the scenario I imagine you're working 
> with, these
> >>>> types of devices are good enough.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Tom
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> >>>> Site: www.isaserver.org
> >>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> >>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> >>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> >>>> 
> >>>>  
> >>>> 
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ball, Dan
> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 3:51 PM
> >>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Watchguard?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >>>>>   
> >>>>> He was also mentioning that he wanted to connect to two
> >>>> ISPs with that
> >>>>> box, which is why he singled out that model.  This is for
> >>>> an apartment
> >>>>> building, so it would get light to medium usage.  He's trying
> >>>>> to replace
> >>>>> a Cisco 1800 that he could never get working right (no 
> surprise).
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I've been trying to talk him into a full-fledge network
> >>>> merging all of
> >>>>> his buildings, he's a bit hesitant to make the move though...
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> So, you're ranking the Watchguard down there in the gutter
> >>>>> with the PIX?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>>>> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 3:21 PM
> >>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Watchguard?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >>>>>   
> >>>>> Hi Dan,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> For people going on the cheap so that they don't want to
> >>>> invest in an
> >>>>> ISA or Check Point, then a Dlink works fine for them:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=486 (99 bucks)
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> If you need a remote access VPN server, you can couple it
> >> up with a
> >>>>> unihomed Windows VPN server located behind the device and
> >>>>> "port forward"
> >>>>> the connections.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> It ain't no ISA firewall, but for those going on the low end,
> >>>>> it's a lot
> >>>>> smarter than going with Watchguard or PIX.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> HTH,
> >>>>> Tom
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> >>>>> Site: www.isaserver.org
> >>>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> >>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> >>>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>  
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ball, Dan
> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 2:07 PM
> >>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Watchguard?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >>>>>>   
> >>>>>> Does anyone have input on a Watchguard Firebox?  I had
> >>>>> someone ask me
> >>>>>> this afternoon about putting one in for their business, and
> >>>>>> due to their
> >>>>>> size I couldn't justify recommending an ISA server for him...
> >>>>>> 
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