http://www.ISAserver.org ------------------------------------------------------- Don't be hatin' ;) Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site: www.isaserver.org Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls > -----Original Message----- > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor > (Hammer of God) > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 2:15 AM > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [isalist] Re: Watchguard? > > http://www.ISAserver.org > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > Doesn't matter- the SBS people apparently don't know the > difference. Oops, > there I go again... > > t > > > On 6/22/06 7:23 PM, "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> > spoketh to > all: > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Egoist is OK, egotist is another story ;) > > > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D. > > Site: www.isaserver.org > > Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ > > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 > > MVP -- ISA Firewalls > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thor > >> (Hammer of God) > >> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 9:17 PM > >> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Subject: [isalist] Re: Watchguard? > >> > >> http://www.ISAserver.org > >> ------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> I'd say something about how my bandwidth is not being > limited, but I'd > >> really hate to be labeled an "egoist." > >> > >> t > >> > >> > >> On 6/22/06 7:08 PM, "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> > >> spoketh to > >> all: > >> > >>> http://www.ISAserver.org > >>> ------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>> Hi Amy, > >>> > >>> What if you change the MTU settings on the clients? > >>> > >>> Tom > >>> > >>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D. > >>> Site: www.isaserver.org > >>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ > >>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 > >>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 9:03 PM > >>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Watchguard? > >>>> > >>>> http://www.ISAserver.org > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> > >>>> The only problem with NetGear that I've noticed is that they > >>>> reduce your > >>>> bandwidth. Keep an eye on the processing power. > >>>> > >>>> Amy > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > >>>> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 8:14 PM > >>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Watchguard? > >>>> > >>>> http://www.ISAserver.org > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> > >>>> Hi Dan, > >>>> > >>>> Maybe not that low, but if you're looking for good > >> pricing, a Dlink or > >>>> the Netgear that Tim referred to is more than enough. No > >>>> reason to pay a > >>>> premium for "hardware" firewall names. > >>>> > >>>> What is the primary deployment scenario? Just outbound access and > >>>> protection from the external bad guys? > >>>> > >>>> BTW -- Dlink has this which isn't too bad: > >>>> > >>>> http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?edc=888706 > >>>> > >>>> And much better priced than a Watchguard. Oh, it runs > >> Check Point ;) > >>>> > >>>> If you need multiple WAN interface support: > >>>> > >>>> http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=273 > >>>> > >>>> BTW -- I'm not a Dlink reseller or anything, I just have had good > >>>> experience with these devices. I wouldn't use them for corporate > >>>> security, but for the scenario I imagine you're working > with, these > >>>> types of devices are good enough. > >>>> > >>>> Tom > >>>> > >>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D. > >>>> Site: www.isaserver.org > >>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ > >>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 > >>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ball, Dan > >>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 3:51 PM > >>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Watchguard? > >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org > >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> > >>>>> He was also mentioning that he wanted to connect to two > >>>> ISPs with that > >>>>> box, which is why he singled out that model. This is for > >>>> an apartment > >>>>> building, so it would get light to medium usage. He's trying > >>>>> to replace > >>>>> a Cisco 1800 that he could never get working right (no > surprise). > >>>>> > >>>>> I've been trying to talk him into a full-fledge network > >>>> merging all of > >>>>> his buildings, he's a bit hesitant to make the move though... > >>>>> > >>>>> So, you're ranking the Watchguard down there in the gutter > >>>>> with the PIX? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > >>>>> On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder > >>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 3:21 PM > >>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>> Subject: [isalist] Re: Watchguard? > >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org > >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi Dan, > >>>>> > >>>>> For people going on the cheap so that they don't want to > >>>> invest in an > >>>>> ISA or Check Point, then a Dlink works fine for them: > >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=0&pid=486 (99 bucks) > >>>>> > >>>>> If you need a remote access VPN server, you can couple it > >> up with a > >>>>> unihomed Windows VPN server located behind the device and > >>>>> "port forward" > >>>>> the connections. > >>>>> > >>>>> It ain't no ISA firewall, but for those going on the low end, > >>>>> it's a lot > >>>>> smarter than going with Watchguard or PIX. > >>>>> > >>>>> HTH, > >>>>> Tom > >>>>> > >>>>> Thomas W Shinder, M.D. > >>>>> Site: www.isaserver.org > >>>>> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/ > >>>>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 > >>>>> MVP -- ISA Firewalls > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ball, Dan > >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 2:07 PM > >>>>>> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>>>> Subject: [isalist] Watchguard? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://www.ISAserver.org > >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Does anyone have input on a Watchguard Firebox? 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