[isalist] Re: Virtualising ISA
- From: Greg Mulholland <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: ISA Mailing List <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:00:09 -0300
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Thanks Jim
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From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jim Harrison [Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2008 12:17 AM
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Subject: [isalist] Re: Virtualising ISA
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It's only misleading if you read into it. Let's take each bullet in turn:
* Windows Server 2008 with Hyper-V
* Microsoft Hyper-V Server 2008
[Jim] - ok; we'll take two at a time. Hyper-V Server and Windows 2008 with
Hyper-V are the same thing from the guest OS perspective and ISA is supported
there.
* Supported partners' virtualization software
For more information, click the following article number to view the
article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
944987 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/944987/) Support partners for
non-Microsoft hardware virtualization software
[Jim] This article doesn't list supported virtualization products. It lists
virtualization support partners. Novel has signed on to help provide support
for non-MS virtualization; nothing more. The bullet title in this article is
misleading, but the article linked to is not.
* Server Virtualization Validation Program (SVVP)
For more information, visit the following Microsoft Web site:
http://www.windowsservercatalog.com/svvp/
(http://www.windowsservercatalog.com/svvp/)
[Jim] - go read this link. Right now, there are *_NO_* validated non-MS
platforms. Therefore, there are no supported 3rd-party hardware virtualization
products (yet). Therefore, no Microsoft products are supported on 3rd-party
virtualization. The vendors listed on that site are "participating"; their
products *_have not_* completed testing.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jerry Young
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:02 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: Virtualising ISA
Jim,
Then the KB Article 957006 is extremely misleading. :(
Here's an excerpt (in full) taken from the Introduction section.
This article discusses the support policy for running Microsoft server software
in the following supported virtualization environments:
* Windows Server 2008 with Hyper-V
* Microsoft Hyper-V Server 2008
* Supported partners' virtualization software
For more information, click the following article number to view the
article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
944987 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/944987/) Support partners for
non-Microsoft hardware virtualization software
* Server Virtualization Validation Program (SVVP)
For more information, visit the following Microsoft Web site:
http://www.windowsservercatalog.com/svvp/
(http://www.windowsservercatalog.com/svvp/)
In my interpreted version of this statement into layman terms, I read it as
saying all of the bulleted environments are supported; specifically, any
environment that is part of the Server Virtualization Validation Program.
If you visit that page, VMWare, Inc. is listed as a participating vendor. If
you then visit the Support link from that page, the first sentence states,
"Technical support will be available for customers running a Windows Server
operating system on a validated third-party hypervisor." Since ESX Server is a
hypervisor and participation implies (at this time, based on language)
validation, the support statement does appear to be transitive.
I could not find anything specifically stating that the applications identified
in the KB Article are only currently being supported in Hyper-V virtualized
environments.
If Microsoft is going to withhold support of the applications identified in the
KB Article on other vendor's virtualization environments, then some kind of
language should be used indicating that such support is pending [insert
qualifier].
Just my $0.02 worth.
On 8/26/08, Jim Harrison <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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That KB lists the products that are supported on Hypervisor.
Greg's questions was specific to VMWare ESX.
This will be a very sticky question and
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/897615/ provides the support limits.
-----Original Message-----
From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry Young
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:46 AM
To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [isalist] Re: Virtualising ISA
Greg,
ISA Server is supported.
See the following KB Article for the full details on all supported
virtualized applications from Microsoft.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/957006
On 8/26/08, Greg Mulholland <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
http://www.ISAserver.org
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Jim and/or others
Is there an official standpoint from MS as to supported
requirements for ISA virtualised in production environments? (specifically ESX)
Cheers
Greg
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