Okay, here's one to twist your noodles on. We are testing the ability to VPN using PPTP on the ISA server. I have several guinea pigs (field sales) using their DSL connections (yes, I made them buy firewall routers first) to tunnel to the ISA server. I'm using the RADIUS athentication and accounting. The radius server is one from the NT 4.0 Option Pack. All that works fine. They can get to the intranet, telnet, etc. They can send email. But they can't download email!? We are using cc:Mail (yeuck) with cc:Mail IP routers for the remote clients. Downloading works fine if they dial up to the regular RAS server. But, when they come in on the VPN, the download connection gets dropped. Ray Dzek Network Operations / Helpdesk Specialized Bicycle Components 15130 Concord Circle Morgan Hill, CA 95037 Ph: 408-782-5420 Fx: 408-782-5421 Pg: 408-589-4250